How to keep Kanter?

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  1. Hoopguru

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    well said....plus his team is nearing 50 wins again!
     
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    I remember back in the day 50 win seasons were what everybody starved for.
     
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    Its looking more and more like we will not be keeping our #1 draft pick.
    As for Kanter agreeing to be a back up next year, it sounds like he wants to play on a winning team, and how many good teams would he start for?
    So it may be possible to keep him
     
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    Winning in the post season will answer a lot of these questions...there's a good chance Meyers and ET are traded off season..we'll keep Jake and Chief in my opinion and Enes will probably work with Neil if he's successful and happy here...give him Meyers money and trade Meyers
     
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    If we signed Kanter (or anyone) to a non-tax MLE deal, we wouldn't be permitted to go over the apron at all, meaning we would lose Layman.

    We are not sacrificing Layman for the privilege of re-signing Kanter. Tax-MLE is the max option for us.
     
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    My biggest complaint from Olshey is that he hasn't replaced this coach sooner. But, that maybe more up to the higher ups.

    Neil mentioned Zach playing with Nurk more. Nice to see Stotts ignoring him.
     
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    I didn't watch the game but him being a weak defender maybe explains why he had a minus-3 despite his stat line.
    Dame had +30.
    I don't like this guy, he takes minutes away from Collins and Meyers, our entire bench had bad plus-minus. Bench him
     
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    And for the record, I do think it's possible to re-sign Kanter.

    The market for centers isn't particularly great. Especially for ones who play no defense. I don't think he'll get paid much more than the MLE from a good team.
     
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    Kanter is here because the Knicks are dumb, not because Olshey is a genius. Even if you somehow twist the facts to credit Olshey with the Knicks dumping Kanter, who is to blame for the cap situation that means the Blazers won't be able to keep him?

    As I said in another thread, if KP deserved to be fired after 3 years and Petrie after 4 (and 2 trips to the finals) there is no rational way to justify Olshey getting 7 years (and counting).
     
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    Collins will be back on the court. The Nyets are a small team, so Stotts went with small PFs.

    Meyers on the other hand will not sniff the court as long as Nurk and Turk are both healthy.
     
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    yeah...I don't buy this line of thinking....at this point Kanter chose us over the Lakers and Rockets as well as several other interested teams like Boston...Neil and Dame tipped the scales our way and probably in equal measure...credit where credit is due. I'm really happy with the move and what it says to me is that Jody Allen is working with the organization to improve it...not treading water...Enes explained it pretty clearly and he's visibly excited to be here
     
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    I didnt need to read any further either...
     
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    This is where I stopped...
     
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    Laughable is putting it mildly. It's ridiculous in my book.
     
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    Now it's twisting facts. Like i said.... Ridiculous.
     
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    The Knicks cut Enes because they are actively trying to lose to get a better pick and Kanter hurt that effort because he's a competitor. He had his choice of playoff teams and chose the Blazers. Olshey started the relationship with him and his agent years ago and it seems the goodwill hadn't been forgotten. Credit Neil.

    The cap situation wouldn't be any different since we re-signed CJ to the deal. It was use it or lose it at the time. Unfortunately for us, values were inflated in 2016 and we're still a small market team. He's definitely responsible for the terrible fit Turner has been though. It just hasn't worked out.
     
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    So Olshey did something that caused the Knicks to cut Kanter? Who's being ridiculous?
     
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    The plus and the minus is to me is over rated. You can have really good individual night but if every round you having bad night you probably be in the minus category but like Dame had not a good game last night but everyone around him excel last night he got big plus.
     
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    The problem is we have to replace their spots on the roster so it's not as simple as just letting those guys go and signing Kanter. It might be more like having to lose Aminu, Hood, Layman, and our 1st round pick.
     
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    CJ was extended after the 2016 cap-space was used. Had they not wasted the 2016 money, and waited until summer 2017 to deal with CJ's RFA status then, we could have held the space over until then as well.

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