Zombie Fire Olshey

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  1. TorturedBlazerFan

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    I dont get how Harkless’ job seems so safe... I mean maybe its that Ive never thought much of Harkless and Aminu as starting forwards, I like Aminu more than Harkless, but sheesh how have they gone so long without upgrading one of their starters forwards.
     
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    Because there's this thing called defense.
     
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    Harkless’s DPBM for his career is 1, his OPBM is -1 do you know what you get? You cant divide by what you get from harkless (this is a lame joke lol). I know Harkless and Aminu are decent defenders, but its not like either of them are even close to DPoY types, their just “pretty good”, and most of the time their defense doesnt make up for the lack of offense.
    Edit: the funny thing is for their career both Aminu and Harkless have BPM that is 0!
    I think they are both role players and maybe a contender could start one of them and be fine, but you gotta have more two way players, thus why I think an upgrade at one of the forwards is neccesary.
     
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    Harkless DBPM is 2.0 this year.

    DBPM of 1 > OBPM of 1 when playing next to Dame and CJ.
     
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    Gonna be honest, people like to complain about the "two small guards" thing a lot, and sure I have argued why I think there are challenges there, but I think they can still win. It's gonna take a heck of an argument to convince me a championship caliber team should be starting Aminu and Harkless though...
     
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    I think they can still win as well, they just need to have good defenders around them.
     
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    I think they need at least one wing who can be consistent on both ends, doesn't need to need to be a star, but it's gotta be someone who can give you 10-15 point (efficiently) on a consistent basis while also playing solid defense, I'm not sure that player is on their team. We've seen a couple stretches from Harkless, but he has been really, really unreliable...
     
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    There's not many available. Layman is your best bet.
     
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    Being that Layman is just now producing I like to think of him as a “recent addition” in a sense

    With that in mind, it got me thinking-

    What exactly did Olshey give up for all three of our “recent additions” that are contributing nicely?

    Layman - cash for a 2nd
    Hood - Sauce, Baldwin, was it two 2nds?
    Kanter - nothing

    This seems good
     
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    Okay, im just gonna cut some people off at the pass and play devils advocate.

    Turner - $18mill
    Leonard - $10 mill
    CJ - $20 mill
    Harkless - $10 mill
    Ezili - $10 mill

    These seem bad
     
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    Well it really hard to have one of your forward average 10-15 points a games when you're guards put up over 40 shots a game sometime and your the forwards playing along side those guards. When our forwards are engaged is when there involved in the offensive end.
     
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    One of these things is not like the others. For (what should be) obvious reasons, let's drop CJ from this discussion.

    What you have left are 7 bench players/marginal starters. Of the 3 best players on that list, 2 will be gone for financial (not BASKETBALL) reasons, and Layman is uncertain. Ezili was money for nothing. Leonard is currently our 4th best center. Harkless is a talented flake with a bad motor and a history of lingering injuries. Turner is grossly overpaid at best, and a horrible fit.

    Sorry, but I don't agree that a couple of good short-term rentals outweigh the rest. On the contrary - these 7 players make a good case for saying Olshey is a questionable judge of talent and an awful payroll manager.
     
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    Yet we see the guards take less shots when they play alongside other players who are scoring. I like Jake coming off the bench, but if he started he would average 15 pts per game. He has been for the last month and a half without starting. Having said that I like the rotation just fine right now. Hark and Aminu don't need to average 15 pts per game for this team to play well. No need for them to force shots, they don't have the game for that.
     
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    If the Kanter/Hood moves propel us to the Western Conference Finals or further is Olshey executive of the year?
     
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    Hands Down!
     
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    Can you say with certainty that Paul Allen wasn't the one that made those decissions.? He was very loyal to players.
     
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    Know they don't need score 15 points a game but they need to be involved in the offensive though. Because when Dame and CJ shoots over 40 shots a game there like 8-17 not very good record.
     
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    For Crabbe/Leonard it is possible PA was involved. I doubt he had much influence for Ezili and Turner. Harkless...I can't even hazard a guess. He and Vonleh came aboard about the same time, and he didn't seem to mind dumping him. :dunno:

    Sometimes I wish the Blazers were a bit more transparent - but that is a debate for another day. :cheers:
     
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    Transparency in sports management lets all the other teams know your plans and intentions as well. Would you consider that good or is it better to keep it closer to your vest?
     
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    Jesus Lord.....what happened to you FAMS? You're never here and now you think we are going to the finals? JinxSpeed hack your account bro? Miss ya man!
     

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