Game Thread GAME# 72: PISTONS @ BLAZERS - MARCH 23, 2019 - SATURDAY, 7:00 PM, NBATV & NBCSNW

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On a scale of 10, how important is home court advantage in the Playoffs for these Blazers?

Poll closed Mar 30, 2019.
  1. 1 - Not important at all.

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  2. 2

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  3. 3

    2.0%
  4. 4

    2.0%
  5. 5

    5.9%
  6. 6

    5.9%
  7. 7

    15.7%
  8. 8

    23.5%
  9. 9

    11.8%
  10. 10 - Of the utmost importance

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  1. CupWizier

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    There has been zero evidence shown that they don't do film sessions or only 10 minutes as in the article TBF linked to it said Stotts usually has a 10-20 minute film session as a team and that's not counting all the time the individual players watch film on their own or the countless times the players work with assistant coaches with film.
     
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    Either way, from what i know and have been told, film watching is as important or more important that anything else. These athletes already have the drive. Most stay in great shape and grew up with basketball drills and skills.
    The biggest unknown, i would think, would be opponent tendancies, of which you only learn through playing them and... watching thier film.

    If film watching isnt a top or near top priority it is an eye opener for me.

    I havent really read anything clear on it one way or another. Just going off what im reading here on the forum about blazers film watching.
     
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    and you're leaning on one guy that hasn't shown any supporting evidence that they put little emphasis on film sessions. Take it with a grain of salt. Probably all it's worth.

    Here is another clip that talks about film sessions on game day as well.

    "Game days usually start at 8, 9 in the morning," forward Moe Harkless says. "We come (to the practice facility) for shootaround ... we go over film, we go over (opponent's) sets, get shots up."
     
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    With all do respect, going over film could be five minutes or five hours.
    Just saying i havent seen anything concrete and clear that shows film watching is a high priority EITHER way.

    Im just saying, if it isnt, to me, that would seem like an issue and could probably be tied to our defense.
     
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    During the last Blazer game that was on ESPN, Dame was quoted as saying that this year is the first year he's truly understood other team's tendencies. He personally watched a ton of film over the summer to get to that point. He also mentioned that Rondo in the playoffs knew every play they were running and on a few occasions was so in tune with Dame's tendencies that he knew what Dame was going to to before Dame even did. Dame couldn't believe someone could get to that point until this year when his hard work in the film room over the summer started to pay off.

    Now I know it's near impossible to watch that much film during the season for every opponent, so I'm not entirely blaming the coaching staff, but Rondo was very clear last year that it was obvious to him the Blazers weren't studying enough film and that was the reason they got dominated in the playoffs. From Dame's comments last week I took two things. The first is that Dame is an amazing player and it's a real testament to his work ethic that he is still getting better in his 7th year. The second is I was left wondering why it is that it took this long for Dame to study film in this way and have to do it on his own? It's the extra effort that players like Rondo put in that make a huge difference in the playoffs. In my opinion the Blazers recent poor playoff performances can be somewhat attributed to this lack of preparation.
     
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    Do you have any articles where Rondo is saying this? Dame saying he watched more film this off season does not indicate he wasn't watching enough film in the past. Watching film is only one part of the equation as there are many aspects that go into preparing for a game and I bet the Blazers watch as much film as most teams. Stotts isn't new to the NBA and they have a video coordinator on staff for the purpose of working with film. You keep posting that the Blazers don't use film much but have shown nothing to support that assertion. If you have something I would be happy to read it.
     
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    So because you haven't seen anything concrete either way then why assume they aren't watching enough?
     
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    I believe the Rondo stuff was a twitter beef thing. I don't know why I can't just be entitled to my opinion and you can be entitled to yours. To me, the lack of preparation against the Pelicans last year was obvious. Combine that with the Dame comments, the comments about usually only watching 10 minutes if any at all after the Clippers game, and Rondo saying he doesn't think they watch enough film it is my conclusion that there may in fact be a correlation between a lack of playoff success and not prudent enough film studying. If you feel like there is no correlation there then be my guest, but I certainly don't need to prove to you my opinion. Neither of our opinions can be validated in this instance so it seems a bit silly for either of us to say that the other person has shown nothing to support their opinion.
     
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    Wait, you're trying to argue with someone who has clearly stated he doesn't know which side is correct?
     
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    arguing? I asked a question and I call it a discussion and not sure why you felt the need to jump in without adding anything to the discussion and assuming it's an argument.

    I feel like you are trying to put forth an unfounded opinion and I have as well as TBF have shown several articles about doing film sessions but you seem to remember some random tweet or something from Rondo and that's suppose to be proof? You now have others doubting the Blazers use film session very much based on your opinion. If you were a female, you would be called a gossiper.
    :bgrin:

    I find it pretty funny that you don't like your opinions questioned but do it frequently in this forum to others.
     
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    @Orion Bailey said "IF" it wasn't a high priority, that would be concerning. He never said he was being swayed by my "opinion". In fact he made it very clear he didn't know either way. Asking him why he assumes they aren't watching enough film indicates that either you aren't reading his posts or you are trying to imply something he hasn't said.
     
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    Why are you trying to make this into an argument when it wasn't even posted to you? Stay in your lane bro. :smiley-smiley-049:
     
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    The article that @TorturedBlazerFan posted was the one that most of my opinion is based on. Other than sarcastically saying that Stotts doesn't make them watch film, I have never stated that the Blazers don't use film sessions so I don't get why you are trying to turn this into whether or not they watch any film. Obviously they do. I'm questioning the extent of those film sessions and whether they are focusing on the right things. I don't give a shit if you or others share that same opinion so why would it matter if other people are starting to doubt the use of film sessions based on my posts? I even tried to respectfully say that you are entitled to your opinion and that I have no way to validate my feelings. That doesn't mean my opinion is unfounded.

    The Blazers lost 4-0 to the Pelicans.

    Dame said they knew their plays and his tendencies.

    Dame says that until this year he mostly was focused on what he was doing and that this year it's been an awakening to study other player's habits and other team's plays and that makes him understand the game so much clearer.

    To me that indicates that the Blazers weren't fully prepared for their playoff matchup last year. You may feel that isn't really a fair assessment, which is fine. I have no way of going back in time and watching every practice session in the days leading up to that series so I don't know how much film was actually watched and how that information was applied. You can ask me to prove it, but I can't. I'm not asking you to prove that they actually watch film for a certain amount of time because you can't either.
     
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    Oh I see, @Orion Bailey asks me a question to which I reply and you interject into it implying something he didn't say yet I'm the one who needs to "stay in your lane bro."
     
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    Can you do me a favor and quote whoever it is you're arguing with so I don't have to scroll through half an argument? Personally, from the one side I'm seeing, it doesn't appear they're worth your time or effort. But hell, I waste time with plenty of stupid shit - so spend yours however you see fit!

    Would just be nice for these posts (of which there are MANY, and not just you) to not even show up as "new posts" for me.
     
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    He did--since it's someone you have on ignore, you don't see the quote either.
     
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    Huh - I thought if an ignored post was quoted the entire post would be blocked?
     
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    You have far more patience for posters over 18 than I.
     
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    As with many things in life, the quality matters a whole lot more than the quantity. One could "watch" film while someone else could "study" film. Really studying film is a skill that needs to be developed.

    But based on what we can see, I agree with your premise that studying film is not a high priority for the Blazers most of the time.
     
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    Huh?
    Why are you assuming im assuming anything?
     
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