Lillard expected to sign a 4 year Super-Max extension in Portland

Its not smugness dude. America, for all its great things, was founded on greed and is a greedy country based on our foundation.

I did give valid reasons, you have yet to address them with a rebuttal.

So tell me what part of this doesnt make sense AND WHY....


Dame takes less, providing the team to have flexibility to put more talent around him to allow him a better chance at winning. Dame can try to (and probably would if we win or even make the finals) make the money up in endorsements.

This has been said by some others in here too and as far as I have read, you have diosmissed it.

Until you answer why that doesnt make sense, this conversation will just go round in circles.

Yes, its taking a chance, as we don't know if the talent acquired will be better, but if the chance isn't taken, its almost a guarantee the talent around him wont get any better.


And btw, if its smug to say IF I had 100 mill in the bank and I was offered 190 more, but said Ill take 150 to help put a better team around me, so I can have a better chance of succeeding, then Ill own the smugness.

The only reason to NOT do that would be greed. Please give me another reason why a guy with 250 mill would NEED another 40 mill in the bank vs not taking it to help his career by winning more?

 

This is going nowhere, and I can't follow your train of thought with these long posts with so much random shit. Gonna step away. My point is fairly clear-- you're missing it.

 

My point was VERY clear, and you are missing it. Same point several others made here you also dismissed.

So you don't have an answer. Got it.

 

Next time I'm due for a raise, I'll ask for less so that my company has more $ to hire others to my group.

Who knows? Maybe one day, all these people they hired because I took less will help me get to a better position. Or you know, they could hire morons who don't know how to do their jobs and I took less for no reason. But I should be shamed into taking less because that's greedy if I don't-- that's not idiotic at all.

 

I actually JUST did that, but you must not have read that post....

Whoever said shamed? Why you putting words in my mouth?

Do I need to resort to a cliche? Learn to read then post?

I said I wouldn't fault him if he took it.

But for the good of the team and to try to win it all, he should take less.

Yeah, i'm done if you are going to continue to try to put words in my mouth, not read what I post and then try to tell me my stance is idiotic.
Whatever man.

 

Maybe a top 5 worst analogy.

 

I understand your viewpoint, but this argument fails on so many levels.

This isn't a right/wrong argument, and you're certainly welcome to your POV that Dame - and everyone - should always take as much as they can. But that doesn't "disprove" the opposing viewpoint. There are very real reasons for why Dame SHOULD take less, just as there are very real reasons why he should take every last penny. Nobody is "right" here.

 

How does this change anything other than letting him walk in 2021?

 

Can't believe people are saying Dame shouldn't get or take this.

Players taking small contracts so the team has cap room is trying to circumvent the cap to gain an edge. It's cheating. Yeah we know the Patriots cheat they got caught twice.

I want the Blazers to win a title because we are the best, not because multiple all stars get underpaid. It's as stupid as super teams or Durant signing with the warriors.

Fuck Durant, I hope the warriors sweep the finals with him injured. He's a bandwagon player and a discrace to competitiors. As CJ said he saw his group getting beat up by bullies and jumped to their side then gloats about what he accomplished!

Fuck ring chasers that give up millions to unfairly join teams that shouldn't be able to afford them.

Fuck fans that want someone else to give up millions. Go give your paycheck back to your employer yourself and let others receive what they've earned.

Congrats to Lillard, the Blazers, and the vast majority of fans that want a team built the right way.

 

I doubt he'd decline $50M at the age of 35.

 

People are right to take what they earn and you are wrong to suggest people should do otherwise.

I believe it's wrong to purposely injure an opposing player to win, no exception; by your logic that viewpoint cannot be disproven.

 

Those of you talking about taking less of a raise from your NORMAL job... (not another company)

 

There’s no option but to give him max deal. Without Lillard your talking about being a top 10 team for lottery every year, and bet your ass Almost any-team would give lillard the super max, he is a leader and always improves each year and is durable almost never injured. Now if you were not to pay him and he leaves .....

Who of free agents likes to come to Portland?.....We are not a great destination for free agents, lillard is only hope to try to attract other talent........ The only thing i am disappointed in him is why not take hometown discount so his roaster could be filled with actual shooters around him... because Instead of getting paid 47 mil a year.....Why not take 37?

Lillard is making 28 million per year from Hulu. He is also making at least 15 mil from Addidas....and god knows how much more on other advertisements, in essence Lillard would be making close 90 million per year WITH TAKING hometown discount, but i guess these days players want every penny

 

So Dame takes less, now Klay takes less, then Kawhi takes less, Another Davis takes less?

Where does it end?

Should Dame play for half his value so we have even more cap space?

Maybe you think it would be fun to have 8 all stars join the Blazers on cheap contracts and get a ring. I'd call that cheating and pathetic. If it's Portland this year it's the Lakers next and Knicks after that.

Fuck any players who do that cheap shit, if you are truly a great player you take what you earned and still compete for a ring.

This place is full of a bunch of unmotivated cheating pathetic losers.

 

So suggesting someone practice financial altruism is the same as suggesting someone physically harm another? Yeah, okay. #hardeyeroll

 

Don't forget the low-IQ idiots! This place is full of them too!

 

I don't blame Dame for taking it even though I don't think know player is worth that much especially it supposed be a game they love to play. But I blame the system what the players and the owners agree upon. The salary cap doesn't go up fast enough to take on these super contract in the long goal of the NBA. Pretty soon every team will be over the salary cap and every owner will be paying out there ass in luxury tax back to the league. Plus I see in the next negotiate between player and owner this probably will definitely will come especially if the owners start losing money my opinion.

 

Like I said, My boss came to me last week with a raise and said he needed more from me, and I said I couldn't do it and I don't want the raise, id rather him hire another office person.
He agreed that asking me to do more than 50 hours a week was not fair.

Now, he gave me the raise anyhow, LOL, but the point is I was going to deny it as to help the office get more help(which he said he would do anyhow).

Point being is in the working world, raises typically come with added responsibility. It totally makes sense for people to not want that extra responsibility and thus not take the raise.

Maybe Dame would like to not have to provide soooo much leadership and wants some more self leaders on the team. Maybe he is willing to take a little less for NO to try to find those guys.

This to me, is completely logical.

 

Where does it end? It ends with a more reasonable payroll for all and paycheck for these athletes.

So all the ring chasers that sign for a one year min to get a ring are also cheaters?

Whatever...

Listen, I get the side that says he should take the max. you don't need to be insulting those who disagree with that and have provided logical reasons why. Take your pathetic loser comment and shove it.

ITs legal. It isnt cheating. Its an option.

 

I just can't decide which way to go....can I be both?