Lillard expected to sign a 4 year Super-Max extension in Portland

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  1. Drttimmy

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    I'm not the biggest Olshey fan and scoff when he mentions drafting Lillard among his best accomplishments in Portland, when it was clear Buchanan was ready to select him anyway. But I have to give Olshey props. Convincing Lillard to sign TWO extensions with Portland is by far his best accomplishment as GM in Portland.
     
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    It's a full time job...the Mrs HCP will be really happy I'm guessing!
     
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    Genius decision!

    You'll let me know where I said anything about it being close to a guarantee. Not even close to what I said but thanks for the response.

    That seemed to work out well.
     
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    Lillard would be stupid to ask for less than his max. It's not even clear any less that he takes could be reinvested in the roster--if Durant walks this off-season, the Warriors don't suddenly have $35M to spend on other players, because they're still over the cap. Whether Lillard takes his absolute max or a mild discount, the Blazers will still be well over the cap. Sure, you can invent scenarios where one day that difference actually makes a difference to the roster, but there's certainly no direct and immediate benefit.

    Secondly, even if there were some direct benefit, the chances that that gain in resources made a title-winning difference are tiny. Even if Olshey were a great GM, getting from where the Blazers are now to a title with a few extra million dollars a year are low. And Olshey doesn't look like a "great GM"--at best, he's adequate. Taking less money in order to still not win a title would be neither here nor there.

    Lillard deserves the supermax and there should be no negative feelings at all about him taking it. Yes, great players cost a lot. Every team wants great players and are happy to pay them a ton.
     
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    Dog... That's not close to Dame's situation. Dame won't have to play more minutes... We're not asking him to do anything that is unfair either.

    You didn't take that raise because fuck working 50 hours a week. Fuck that RIGHT off. Frankly, people should be working around 30 hours a week.
     
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    But it is. Dame is also the leader of the team. Like I said in the balance of the post. Maybe he can rest a bit more with guys on the roster that don't require as much leadership?

    No its not apples to apple,s but the analogy is there.

    The end result is I passed up money so the company could have more flexibility to bring in another body to help with the work load.

    This is the same thing.

    Dame would be willing to take less money to bring in better players to help with his work load.

    It's the same.
     
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    Your company is fooling you. They could afford to hire someone else to help with a work load because there was a demand for work.

    They tried to cut corners by asking you to work over 50 instead of hiring someone new. It's bullshit corporatism. They had enough money to hire somebody bro.
     
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    Sure, and they wanted to give the money to me and ask em to do more. I Instead asked them to give it to someone else who can help with the work load.

    Irrelevant that funds are available. Whats relevant is that I chose to take less money to help the company get more help. Thats the point. And the point I'm making that Dame could and in my opinion, should, if he wants a better supporting cast.

    AGAIN, I wont fault him if he takes the max, I just dont see it being the optimal decision in the big picture if he wants to win it all.
     
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    I wish he'd sign for less $$ so we can afford better players to surround him with. But I dont blame him for taking the super max. He's earned it.
     
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    Exactly my point. Be careful though, you might be labeled a pathetic loser for this stance.....
     
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    Shit I've been working about 50 hrs/wk for many years now. :blink:
     
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    Not to be a dick, but...thanks Captain Obvious! The extension doesn't go into effect until 2021 (?), so obviously it has no immediate benefit. But it would have future benefit, because, aside from Dame's contract, there are no* other contracts on the books for the years this extension is in effect.

    *I haven't looked, so maybe it's not zero, but I have to think that if there are any contracts currently on the books during the years of Dame's extension the total dollar amount is very small.
     
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    Even Pippen, he of financial woes after his playing days, says it would be a bad move to give Dame the Super-Max. He says Curry is the only player who received it deservedly and with a positive outcome.
     
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    Who labeled you that?
     
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    Thanks for not being a dick, I guess? Anyway, the idea that the Blazers will just keep letting contracts drop off their salary structure without replacing them with other ones is silly. Unless they're looking to punt on the next two seasons (I'm sure Lillard would love that!), they're going to keep using what resources they have as those resources become available. They'll almost certainly be capped out in 2021 too. Hopefully not capped out with as many terrible contracts as today, but the idea that they could have significant cap room in 2021 if only Lillard would give them a discount is hopelessly naive.
     
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    Well @Orion Bailey that dude is kind of a dick so... Fuck him?
     
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