They aren't 'Young' anymore

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  1. TBpup

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    For years this has been a 'young' team that didn't play young (hardly ran at all) but there is a certain feeling about a young team that is growing, developing and getting better. That will still apply to some players on the roster but for the first time in years, depending on who comes back, the Blazers could have multiple players in their 30's.

    By next season:

    Turner will be 32
    Dame will be 30
    Aminu will be 30
    Curry will be 30

    And following just behind:


    CJ will be 29
    Meyers will be 28
    Hood will be 28
    Kanter will be 28

    Now it's doubtful that all four of Aminu, Curry, Hood and Kanter will be back and they could be replaced by younger players but for this first time, we could be looking at the physical peak of several of the Blazer players and the beginning of the inevitable decline that starts to happen at or soon after 30.

    Experience and mental toughness can make up for some of that initial decline but if there is such a thing as a 'window' for the majority of this roster, it begins in earnest now. That window is about 2-3 years left for Dame and a year or two more for some of those right behind him. But Father Time is undefeated.

    For better or worse, that clock will seem to be ticking even faster now. Enjoy it while it lasts as players like Dame don't come along that often.
     
  2. illmatic99

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    I get it. This is true. But it's really disingenuous to mention free agents like Aminu/ Kanter/Hood/Curry but not three important guys who are under contract and will be part of our core in Moe (26) /Nurk (25) /Collins (22). I suppose that doesn't fit your narrative.
     
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    Ahhh, I missed that.

    Yeah, whats up with that @TBpup :)
     
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    Since they mostly have birthdays during summer vacation, at the end of the 2019-2020 season in June:

    Dame will be 29
    Aminu will be 29
    Curry will be 29
    Turner will be 31
    CJ will be 28
    Kanter will be 28
    Hood will be 27
    Nurkic will be 25
    Collins will be 22

    So what we seem to have is a team entering their prime this year that made the Western Conference Finals basically right on schedule despite missing their starting star center.

    People are really looking hard to find something wrong with this picture.
     
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    Meh, 30 is the new 20.
     
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    So not only did he omit three key younger players, but he got the ages wrong. Ouch. You have it off too. Nurk will be 25 still in June 2020 (aka AFTER next season). And Collins will be 22.
     
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    Sorry pre-coffee!
     
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    By the end of the 1989-1990 season:

    Clyde was 28 (Dame is 28)
    Danny Young was 28 (Seth is 28)
    Terry was 27 (CJ is 27)
    Buck was 30 (Turner is 30)
    Cliff was 23 (Collins is 21)
    Sabonis was 25 (Nurkic is 24)

    Just some context
     
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    Lol....love the negative reaction as that is all some people seem to be able to respond with. You get the bigger picture idea though. Narrative.....amusing. That is why the word 'some' is used. But per usual, pick and chose. The fact is, the Blazers have 2 of their most important players at their physical peak and that won't be getting any better. Take advantage now.

    And of course the part about about how players like Dame don't come along very often. For those who can only respond negatively, that means he is very special and enjoy the time we have left. Try and see some positive. :cheers:
     
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    Actually no.. The notion of your post is wrong. Based upon the ages you have there, you've taken off a whole season of play, development and maturing.
     
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    Negative reaction? No dude, your numbers were wrong.

    COme on. You arent THAT biased are you?
     
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    I should have said 'year' instead of season. So Dame turns 30 the month after what we hope is a Finals appearance. The bigger point is still the same. And I love how some people now are all zealous about exact numbers/stats when they completely dismiss them at other times. The notion isn't wrong, just the wording. @dviss1 ...this isn't directed specifically at you, but it's amusing how the bigger point is so being dismissed for a fraction of a number.

    Admittedly, part of that may be from my job as we go by what birthday a person is closer to to determine age for underwriting purposes. Even so, huge Mea Culpa for using the word season instead of year. SMH....

    @Orion Bailey ....biased about what? The overall basis of the post? What bias are you referring to? Is this another mind-reading exercise?
     
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    You posted numbers. Others showed you you were wrong.

    Instead of admitting the omissions and wrong ages, you decided to take the victim route.

    No biggie, but kinda surprised you didnt just say, oh yeah, I missed those players and probably shouldn't have added players likely not on the roster next year.

    Thats all. Not sure what you mean by mind reading excersize, unless you are referring to your OP.
     
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    Their realistic window of winning with Dame as the best player is probably 3-4 years. After that assuming no major injuries to Dame he would probably have to be your leader but need 2-3 other really, really legit all star types next to him and he probably wouldn't be the main focus anymore.

    So yes they arent, “young” but 28-32 is really most players “prime”, definitely just hitting it, but its a window that can close very quickly.
     
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    That's it? So nothing about your complete omission of all the facts?

    You "forgot" key rotation players that are under contract: Moe (26) /Nurk (25) /Collins (22)

    Players you mentioned: Aminu (29) Curry (29) Kanter (28) Hood (27)

    May not even be on the team next year.
     
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    We should freeze them in the off season.
     
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    Thats all I was trying to say.
     
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    Victim? Where did I once say that? In fact instead admitted I used the wrong wording. Also mentioned some of those players would likely not be on the roster next season. I didn't omit anyone as I used the word 'some' as has been pointed out before. This is quite selective reading but maybe I shouldn't be surprise anymore.

    he nitpicking around here is reaching all-time high. The broader point is the same. For those who it will help have a better day, once again, I should have used the word 'year' instead of season to indicate how old Dame will be next 'year'. I'm so sorry for anyone that has been caused such bother. My goodness. Bigger picture. Dame is closer to the downside of his career. Take advantage, appreciate and hope they can do something in these next few year. How is that point being missed?

    Time for baseball.
     
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    Come on man....


    It was alot more than wrong wording. You completely dismissed part of the roster to fit your narrative. When called out on it, you said people go negative.
    Thats playing the victim.

    See, most people see you nitpicking a false narrative that you started in the OP.

    Why cant you just admit that you missed some players????

    SMH.....

    Your point isnt being missed.l How you came to your point is not being missed either.
     
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    Horrible thread.

    Cherry pick the players to include and ommit.

    Misrepresent the ages of the players that actually were included.

    When called out, double down on the false narrative.

    Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story!
     
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