Lillard expected to sign a 4 year Super-Max extension in Portland

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  1. dviss1

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    I do it in regular life too lol!

    I'm always quoting a movie or a comic.
     
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    Portland doesn't have rookie scale deals on their best players anymore. That's about the only way a team can be competitive AND have some cap-space

    Blazers are going to have late first round picks so the draft route for adding good talent is likely blocked. They may have a little cap-space in July 2020. Sandwiched around 2020 will be two off-seasons when they have exceptions. What Portland can not do is what they did in 2016, and that's saddle their roster with heavily negative contracts that completely throttled flexibility

    they need to use the next two off-season to add positive value trade-worthy contracts. No Turner at 18M/year or Meyers at 10M/year. ED Davis or Rodney Hood at 6M/year type deals, and for love of gawd, no more 4 year contracts. Add 3 or 4 of those type of contracts and Portland would have some leverage in trades for higher level players. They've had almost no leverage since 2016
     
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    OKC is the only team we've played since Houston that thought it's wise to play Dame straight up. I even said after that series that the real test begins, because the only thing it proved is that's not the way to play him. Denver, even with their two best players being lousy defenders, trapped him and he had to be carried by CJ. Golden State trapped him harder and he was even worse.

    The problem with your theory is, the same free agents you're trying to attract are the ones that know Dame's weakness., and are responsible for exploiting it. That's a tough recruiting angle to pull off.
     
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    Aminu & Harkless's man sitting in the lane while the big traps Lillard in a P&R is somehow Lillard's weakness?
    It clearly has nothing to do with the screen setter not moving to the open space or Aminu & Harkless not being consistent on the offensive end.
    Also has nothing to do with Terry Stotts.
    Clearly this is Lillard's weakness and why he can't figure out how to score on 4 guys shows exactly why he's overrated.
     
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    What? The thing you are saying is why free agents would come here. If it's someone who can alleviate Dame getting trapped. Unless that free agent is an insecure weakling in that case, why would we want that player?
     
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    To both of the above replies... Your missing the point. It's not about personnel, it's about Dame not knowing how to handle the trap. Sure, better teammates will alleviate that, but he's still going to be susceptible to it in crunch time. After five years, you'd think he wouldn't still be alarmingly bad at it... How many above average players want to go to a team that: a) is in a city they don't care for, b) has no money to spend on them, and c) is led by a player who disappears in the playoffs?
     
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    Dame will be exiting his prime when the extension kicks in. Jus' sayin'.
     
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    Good thing we're getting a new coa - DAMMIT!
     
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    Dame's prime is infinite. Just saying.
     
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    Dame exits his prime at 31? Don’t think so.
     
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    So he's going to get better as he enters his 30s? Wow - 2023 championship here we come!
     
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    C'mon man, there's a difference between exiting your prime and not getting better.
     
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    Huh? If Portland had a player that was capable of exposing teams that trapped Dame then any team that trapped Dame would get destroyed. We'd actually want teams to continue doing so.
     
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    Most people peg a player's prime at age 28. Contract kicks in when Lillard turns 31? However you wanna phrase it, Lillard will be past his peak and on the downside of his career trajectory.
     
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    He’s gotten better every year because he works so hard each offseason. I’d expect him to reach his peak over the next couple of years, plateau for a couple and then begin a gradual decline.

    Chris Paul, IMO, began to show his age this season at the age of 34. He has had far more injury problems than Dame so I’d think Lillard can be expected to still be very good at 35 or 36.
     
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    Prime begins at 28. You don't start immediately declining when that hits.
     
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    It has nothing to do with Lillard not knowing how to handle a trap.
    Lillard said it perfectly in case you missed it.

    He gets around Thompson, gets around the trap from Looney.
    Only to have Green playing free safety in the paint.

    That has nothing to do with Lillard having a weakness to being trapped.
    That has to do with teams saying. Hey Aminu, hey Harkless. Score 50 please, because we don't think you can do it.
    I don't care who you are. If there are three & sometimes four defenders putting that much effort on stopping you. Then when you make the pass teammates have to make the defense pay.

    Meyers Leonard in games 3 & 4 didn't create his own shot. He had a 'breakout series' because teams were saying. 'Hey we know you can shoot, but we know if this guy gets going he'll beat us. Prove you can beat us.'
     
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    I don't know if this has been pointed out somewhere in this thread, and I'm too lazy to search, but Dame would actually be leaving money on the table and doing the Blazers a favor by signing the four-year supermax extension this summer:

    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ady-make-biggest-commitment-franchise-history

    Steph Curry put the Warriors in the position of signing him to the longer supermax deal. He was 29 at the time. More money (adjusted for inflation) and more years commitment on glass ankles.
     
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    And then Meyers went out and proved he could play Steph Curry to a draw, only to have his coach forget about him during halftime.
     
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    let's see now....over 7 years and 420 games, Meyers has hit the 30 point plateau once. Curry hit that mark 34 times this season alone. But in your mind Meyers "proved" he could play Curry to a draw?
     
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