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  1. Wizard Mentor

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    Here's a reminder of what was involved in the trade. Cheers.
     
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    why would he need to yell to push it all the time if that was part of game plans and part of the team identity?

    if the Blazers worked on it for any significant time in practice and the pre-season, they'd be pushing it a lot more than they do. Portland's lack of transition offense is on Stotts
     
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    I kind of disagree. I think that one is pretty squarely on Dame. That isnt his game.
     
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    Olshey didn't offer CJ for PG13 and I'm sure he didn't offer CJ for Kawhi.
     
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    Probably, but my point was I think SAS couldve gotten better than Demar for Kawhi, CJ was just an example of that.
     
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    Dame has never been a tradition PG that can push the ball up, or be a pass first shoot second.
     
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    horseshit

    I wish draft express was still around. When Dame was at Weber State, the scouting report on him was he was very strong in transition offense. And Dame doesn't play 48 minutes. Portland doesn't run more when Dame rests, they might even run less.
     
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    Ok, but Dame isn't in the NBA draft anymore. So what he was as a player at 22 doesn't really matter today. If he wanted to push the ball and run he could, but rarely does. Even when being prodded along to go, he doesn't...
     
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    Also, Portland really doesnt have a player that can take a rebound and push it themselves (except for MAYBE Turner) All the bigs have to wait a second to find a small to pass to. That delay kills a lot of the opportunities.
     
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    I often wonder what would happen if we traded for Kevin Love. He's by far the best outlet passer in the league. Would he teach Dame and the rest to get out faster so he can pass to them up the court or would he stop doing that and conform to our system?
     
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    Even when Dame does rebound the ball, he almost never pushes it up, he waits for things to clear out and then goes, I mean once in a while they run in transition and I'd say sure part of it is coaching, but I just don't think it's the strength of this roster. Aminu's gotten better but it's still uncomfortable to watch, ET is probably their best transition passer and it's ET... Harkless flat out looks like he can't dribble at times.
     
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    I know we hate how CJ gets Blinders, but I think he does push the ball, how many times have we seen him up the court long before anyone else on the team is? Now I wish he wouldn't decide to go one on 3 or 4, but do you know what I wish more? That someone else on the team would actually join him instead of jogging up the court...
     
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    Nurk could become a decent outlet passer too.
     
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    push the ball to what end? The only Blazer player that looks to get up the floor in transition is Aminu, and that's a disaster waiting to happen. CJ doesn't run up the floor. Mo doesn't, Nurk doesn't, ET doesn't, Curry didn't. What good will Lillard do running up the floor with the ball when his teammates are trailing significantly and not running with him?

    it's kind of crazy how much Dame gets blamed for. You don't have a clue how much Portland works on their transition game. I don't either, but we sure have an idea how much Portland runs and that indicates something. When was the last time you saw a Blazer take the ball out of the basket and fire it to a player running up the court? I'm thinking never. That's not on Dame, that's on Stotts. How often does a Blazer big grab a defensive rebound and look to make a transition outlet pass? Right, almost never. How many players does Portland have capable of consistently filling the center of a fast break?

    Dame has be be the primary scorer. He has the burden of running most of the offense. He's their primary ball-handler in the PnR. And the last 2-3 years he draws the assignment of defending opposing PG's and that's extremely tough defensive duty that's going to slam him into screen after screen. He's carrying a gigantic burden and now you guys are blaming him for Portland's lack of transition offense. Can just once one of Dame's teammates take the lead and be responsible for just a little bit of Portland's game?

    whether it's been Mo Williams, or Ronnie Price, or Wesley, or Steve Blake, or Eric Maynor, or CJ, or ET, or Bazz, since Stotts has arrived, I've never seen any Blazer ball-handler act any differently in potential transition opportunities than Dame does, Not one bit of difference. That's a pretty clear sign of what they work on and what is coached
     
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    CJ does it all the time, that's why he gets in trouble actually, he gets the ball and is up to the court in a hurry when literally no one else is. I am not criticizing Dame by saying that isn't his game, but he hasn't shown in the NBA an ability to get up the court in a hurry and make things happen. If he can and it's all just coaching well then ok, but we don't really know that, because, for the most part, the team doesn't run. Aminu will once in a while go do, whatever that is...
     
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    During the Denver series when CJ got a rebound he several times pushed the ball via long pass up court to Mo which allowed Mo to use his athleticism.
     
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    so did Dame
     
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    You must have missed point-Meyers in game 82!
     
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    @H.C. would appreciate it if you referred to Meyers as a Point Center.
     
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    That was some great stuff! heh
     
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