Wizards show interest; Olshey to stay with Trailblazers

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  1. Ripcity4life77

    Ripcity4life77 Well-Known Member

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    I do not want to speak ill of the dead cause PA did a awesome job as owner but i do think at times he gave his GM's marching orders like re-sign Myers etc even if the GM agreed with the decision or not. I think last summer cause of PA being ill he let NeO to his own for the most part and look what he did -- brought in Curry , Nic who he traded for Hood who was a great in the playoffs and got Kanter.

    Maybe we finally see a NeO who has more say without someone trying to play GM in PA --- again i LOVE Paul and what he did for the Blazers but his love for the draft and such prolly hurt the Blazers more then helped. -- He wanted Webster and i believe he was big on Oden but still i am not sure the Blazers ever really considered Durant prolly cause of PA and i am sure i am missing a player or two.
     
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    Great thread! Too bad it got merged.
     
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    Seems reasonable, expected, and I am glad he will be able to continue his work here. This team is truly relevant again, and he has had a big hand in creating that.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    No...

    Woj loves to break news.

    We love Woj to break it too. So much so no one believes anything until the "Woj bomb" happens.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Please don't minimize 2016. It as all his fault and there's no escaping it.

    Fucking Allen Crabbe at 19 per...
     
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    That was actually rumored to be Allen’s call, to match any Crabbe offer.
     
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    Good! I'm excited to see what Olshey can do. You can't change GM's coaches every couple years and expect to win. After all Olshey did put together a team that got us to the WCF.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    So then no evidence of that, only evidence of NO signing him. I don't care about rumors.
     
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    Sometime I’m going to do a review of the contracts handed out that summer. Huge numbers given to mediocre talent.
     
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    So Jodies legacy could be she brought round ball back to Seattle?
     
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    I fully understand both sides of the coin but the facts remain. His savvy acquisitions were the ones that pushed us over the “top.”

    No one is beating GS so no need to compare situations.
     
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    Here's the list of every free agent signing that summer. Crabbe was bad, but that was Paul Allen not wanting to be outbid for his player. Turner probably tops the list of bloated contracts, but a lot of the signings that summer were off the charts bad:

    https://www.oregonlive.com/nba/2016/07/nba_free_agency_2016_every_sig.html
     
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    And just like I was saying at the time, we should let Crabbe walk. Now we still have dead money counting against our cap because we traded him for Nicholson.

    I no one was clamoring for Meyers Leonard's services so please, don't act like his deal was due to the market and not due to NO's idiocy.

    I liked and still like Moe's deal.

    I fully believe Turner could've been had for less too. You don't think he would've taken 15 Mil? 13 Mil? 12?

    Let's not absolve NO of his obvious wrongdoings.
     
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    Wouldn’t the opposite be a rumor as well? Lmfao foh.
     
  15. PtldPlatypus

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    OK--We all know that Olshey royally screwed the pooch July 2016. It was plainly evident within less than a year. He wasn't fired during the 16-17 season, though he probably deserved to be. If he were going to be impacted by his 2016 failures, it would have happened already.

    When we're evaluating this extension, I think we have to look essentially at everything he's done since then. So here's my question: have his recovery efforts over the past 2 years earned him more time?
    • Trading Plumlee and a 2nd for Nurkic and a 1st
    • Trading up for Collins and drafting Swanigan
    • Trading Crabbe for Nicholson
    • Trading Vonleh for nothing
    • Drafting Simons
    • Trading 2 future 2nds Trent
    • Re-signing Nurk for 48M/4y
    • Trading Swanigan for Skal
    • Trading Stauskas/Baldwin/2 2nds for Hood
    Now I'm not counting free agent signings that aren't carrying forward (Curry/Kanter), since they have no impact on the team's future. But looking at the past almost 3 years in totality, Olshey has turned Plumlee/Vonleh/Crabbe/4 1sts/5 2nds into Nurkic/Collins/Skal/Simons, and a WCF appearance.

    Guess I have to agree with you. I did the work, and I'm still less than impressed.
     
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    Timothy Mosgov tops the list that year in my view of huge unearned contracts
     
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    We better see some huge improvements by Neil
     
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    Some of us don't apparently because we got @e_blazer in here tryna rewrite history. :D
     
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    I unlike this.
     
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    I'm not absolving him, but I'm not obsessing over the 2016 drunken spending binge either. I think that the spending was based on the notion that we had to spend the money that year because the cap space was going to be gone the following year anyway. My understanding (and I certainly could be wrong) is that the thought was that essentially banking the money in those contracts would allow for future trades for high dollar veterans by combining assets: Somebody wants to move a disgruntled star and they'll take one of our younger good players, an overpriced veteran and a pick. The problem is that line of thinking failed to pan out because everybody had bad contracts and wasn't interested in taking on another one. Olshey screwed the pooch, but he was far from the only one to do so.
     

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