IMO . . Damian Lillard is the best player on the team. Yusuf Nurkic is the most valuable player on the team. What he does defensively was trending towards brilliant before the injury, and offensively, almost everything is based through him. If he returns, continuing his trajectory he could easily find himself in. the all all star conversation.
Jusuf is not more valueable than Dame. Dame is the difference between a 33 and 53 win team. Nurk is the difference between a WCF team and ...?
DAME is our MVP and the most valuable player on our team, however to go further, Nurk is the biggest, most important factor. I would consider it a bit like Steph and Draymond Green. Steph is the MVP, but Green is probably their most important player. He changes their game and diversifies their offense and leads their defense. I see much the same in Nurk. Nurk diversifies our offense and he leads our defense. Dame = MVP Nurk = MIP (Most Important Player)
What the hell are you talking about... Important and valuable are the same thing. Theres literally no difference between "most valuable player" and "most important player". It seems like youre just trying to get fancy with your opinions. If Nurk was our "most important factor to go further", then we wouldnt have made the WCF.
And it looks like your trying to insinuate your opinion is fact without any fancy icing...... Dude, why must you always be like this on here, like you are the only one who knows what they are talking about. I said almost verbatim what the announcers said about GSW and the national media over the last week on the radio. Steph is the MVP of GSW because he is the most valuable to the team because he runs the offense and is almost unstoppable. but without Green to take the heat off Steph, Steph wouldnt be as good, thus Green is the most important to the team to elevate Curry to MVP status. We made it to the WFC without Nurk. I think he is the piece that diversifies our offense and makes Dame better. Nurk is the most important to this team in order for dame to reach MVP status and get us to the finals. Just agree to disagree if you don't agree instead of asserting that no one knows what the hell they are talking about but you..It really is annoying man....
I know what I'm talking about here because there literally is 0 difference. Its not even something to disagree. Players are more inportant if theyre more valuable. Theyre more valuable if theyre more important. Its the same thing. If Lillard has more value to the team, than how is he less important than someone who brings less value to the team? Makes no sense. "Green is most important to the team to elevate Steph to most valueable to the team"... haha. And dont get so worked up dude. Damn.
Yeah, parsing out a difference between "valuable" and "important" doesn't make sense. In this context, they're synonyms. Your most valuable player is your most important--that value is what makes players important. Just because some announcers or people in the media tie themselves into knots trying to find a way to claim that both Stephen Curry and Draymond Green are the crucial player for the Warriors doesn't make it a coherent viewpoint.
Im not worked up at all. Im just tellign you, you trying to correct everyones opinion gets old. Just like when you told me you miss the old OB. I got it and im working on it. I didnt bitch about you saying that. I understood you were pointing something out for the better. Im doing the same. In MY opinion, in THIS instance, I do not think they are the same. For the same reason, one mans trash can be another mans treasure, they are not the same. My point is, again, that Steph is the most Valuable PLayer because you can put him on any team and he will raise them 20 wins a season or so. But he cant win it all without Green next to him. Green will NOT raise ANY team to 20 wins, but next to a Curry, he makes them champs, thus making him the most important pc. Hopefully that makes more sense. Im saying Curry is most valuable, because he will be a success anywhere. Green is the most important because he allows Curry to optimize his success like no other can.
I see it as Dame is the franchise, he’s the most valuable piece of the puzzle and he’s the cornerstone. Jusuf’s growth, developement (and not healing / health) will be what determines if were just another team with a great guard who could never get over the “hump”, like AI, Steve Nash, maybe even RW. Jusuf’s next 2-3 years will do a lot in determining what Damians legacy becomes. Dame is far and away the M valuable / important Player, but what Nurkic becomes over the next couple seasons will likely play a huge role in Dame’s career. CJ is not the Robins to Dame’s batman, Nurkic is the Robin, because of his ability on both ends of the court to make Dame’s life and job easier.
Go to Google. Search "define value". Then search "define important". Let me know what you find. So you really think Draymond is more important to GS than Steph and Nurk is more important to the Blazers that Dame? Cmon man. Then Green would also be the most valuable player to GS as well because if he's most important to the team for whatever reasons, then hes most valuable to the twam for those exact same reasons because those two words mean the same exact thing. I dont know how else to spell it out. It's like trying to argue that Meyers is the dumbest on the team and Evan Turner is the stupidest.
Really guys?? http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/jusuf-nurkic-opens-up-about-his-injury-and-road-to-recovery.345313/
Steph is the better player with more skills. makes him more valuable. He is a better player than Green. You can put him on any team and he will take them to the playoffs. However when you pair them up, Green is the most important because he allows Steph to do things he couldn't do with other players in Greens position... hence, making Green the most important player. because he allows Steph to elevate his game to the point they are not a playoff team, but a championship team. But he isn't the best player. You are arguing semantics over a word when I'm just trying to provide the angle of my opinion of why Steph is the MVP but Green is the most important and Green's game elevates Stephs game into MVP status. I believe the same thing with Nurk and Dame here. You are not changing my opinion, and I don't know why you are even trying to. Most people, including local and national media have basically said as much. Feels like you are arguing just to argue... as usual, because your opinion has to be the right one all the time. Just stop and say I don't agree if you don't.
Again, fixated on a word. Steph. Most skilled, best player. Put him on any team and he is MVP and they make the playoffs. Doesn't mean he is a champion. Green. Less skilled, not the best player. Put him on any team and they might still be a lottery. Put him next to Steph and Steph becomes a champion. Hence, most important. I think Green could be on a lottery team on many teams, but not Steph. However Steph cant win it all without Green. Call it what you want, I don't care. Best, Valuable, Important, top notch, GOAT. To me it means Steph is the most valuable player because he can have success on any team. Green is the most important because Curry cant win without him.