The Official 2019 NBA Finals Thread

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by KingSpeed, May 30, 2019.

  1. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

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    Gonna disagree with you on that and leave it alone.
     
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    Kind of depends IMO, is Nurk / CJ playing because they should be able to pretty easily beat a box and one healthy. I think what made the box and one so effective was really the only big scoring threat was Steph. The other guys out there weren't very reliable, Cousins had a good game but he definitely isn't back in game shape yet. Now playoff time, Dame / CJ / Stotts do tend to do a lot of try to beat guys off the dribble instead of move the ball and take good shots, and it might work against them.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Bro, Terry can't even adjust to a simple ass 3-2 half-court trap...

    We've witnessed this for years. So really, the opposing team woudln't need a Box-1 gimmick Defense anyway. :dunno:
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    I think that depends on how the box-1 is played. There are many variations. You can coach it so the ballhandler always has an on ball defender and players in the gaps and help line.

    I think it would frustrate Stotts personally.
     
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    LMAO, so true.
     
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    Come on now, I'll admit that curry will flop (and I hate it) and do the crap where he jumps into the defender but Klay doesn't do that stuff. Watch the play, are you saying he wasn't bumped? After jumping straight up his body moves to the left as green runs into him. I love that these playoffs have been very physical and I don't think there should have been a foul called on that play but to say he flopped, and then gloat about an injury...not a good look.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    NO. He was not bumped.

    If he was, the contact was marginal and that floppy BITCH deserves his injury. That's what he gets for calling their whole team "light work".

    I hope he's injured for the whole series for being a flopper.

    And realistically, I could care less what a former Laker fan thinks. You probably just became a Warriors fan and don't even know who Mookie Blaylock is...

    #yesisaidt

    #fuckKlayThompson
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    What a load of crap. I bet it didn't take much for you to subscribe to that bullshit notion.

    He jumps straight up into his vertical plane, and lands in the same spot with NO movement either way, except spreading his legs like an IDIOT.

    He gets what he deserves.
     
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    When does he get bumped? Green seems to jump behind him while closing out from the side. Klay's Form seems fine, then when he realizes Green didn't hit him at the 4 second mark, he kicks his legs out trying to get contact, which caused him to land awkwardly and hurt himself. I see this as just straight up acting/flopping, he tried to initiate contact by throwing out his legs, it's literally a play that if he had made contact with green it should've been an offensive foul.
     
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    Not really sure how to post video here but this angle shows it pretty clearly I think.

    https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/video/klay-thompson-leaves-hamstring-injury-4th-quarter-game-2

    And just for the record, I’m one of the real warrior fans, since run tmc days. I think I’ve probably even got my old starter jacket somewhere! The bandwagon guys piss me off too, lol
     
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    Im having issues getting the video to pause on my phone I’ll check it out after lunch. Stupid iphones.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Sure...

    Again like I said above:

    That small amount of contact DID NOT create a situation where Klay needed to land like that. He unnecessarily spreads spread his legs (like Curry does A LOT) and fell on his ass.

    It's what he gets.
     
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    Not just "Not Bumped" but "Clearly not Bumped in any way that would cause that fall.". He didn't even say a word to the refs. Please get out of here with that.
    If he had been touched at all he would have been screaming that Green fouled him.
     
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    Kind of thought we just watched a 3-2 against both OKC and Denver? Not to mention multiple times during a 53 win season? But what do i know?
     
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    OKC did not run a 3-2.

    Denver didn't either. They simply trapped on the same pick and roll that Terry KEPT running...
     
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    Again i'm gonna have to disagree with you. They did run it at times. But i know that isn't what people want to hear. Portland beat it because the defenders couldn't hold their own against Lillard shooting from very deep and the other guys on the court making some shots. In particular CJ, Hood, Curry. Against OKC Kanter was more of an offensive threat before injury. I believe if he had not been injured against Denver they would have been better off also.
    Now when they got up against Curry, Klay and Iggy things got tough. CJ still put the ball in the hole. They just could not rely on anyone else. And we all know now Lillard was playing injured. You can blame Stotts as that is the popular thing to do but i will not join in on the party.
    Golden State played very good defense. Better than either OKC or Denver. Portland ran out of gas and the injuries got to be too much. Not on Stotts.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Yeah we'll continue agree to disagree because IMO you're completely wrong.

    OKC never once ran a 3-2. Ever. Playing gap and help coverage is not a 3-2.

    Show me a 3-2 here. Wait.. There isn't one...



    No 3-2 trap here either...

     
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    I'm apparently really old because I'm having a hard time remembering the OKC series. I don't remember much if any 3-2 traps. They trapped PNR's, but mostly switched a lot. They did have guys picking up Dame at full/half court most of the time.

    Denver tried a few different schemes along the way, but really Murray's defense was a huge bane for them as they basically exploited him where ever he was at.
     
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    Daaaaaaamn look at that Defense!
    Someone send this to Terry (we give the greatest Shooter of All Time enough Space to shoot 3s) Stotts please

     
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    They did in game one and two vs OKC and it got exposed. It was there for all to see. Lillard dropped logo 3's and dropped passes to Kanter and Enes destroyed them. They never went back to it. Same thing happened in Denver except Kanter could not score as easily and Lillard then went to Hood and CJ. The 3-2 didn't work. Are you trying to say that the Thunder were down 2-0 in a series and never even tried what you all say Stotts can't adjust to? So now not only are you all better coaches than Stotts but now also Billy Donovan and Mike Malone. Seems like a stretch to me bro.
    Yep we agree to disagree on this for sure.
     

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