Trade Ideas Thread

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    That adds about 11 million in extra salary to Phoenix
     
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    I’m going to stay on the Whiteside train. Heat probably want to dump him but not everyone has the money to make it work. We need a center and have the expirings to match. Heat need another ballhandler. There was interest in him a couple years ago. He said he would’ve come to Portland if he hadn’t signed with Miami. Seems like there’s a deal to be made there. Give em Turner and one of Meyers/Harkless.
     
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    I know that we have all (rightfully) fallen in love with Little. But he is not at the age or stage of development where he will fit the team's timeline. But what if we could now include him in a trade (I'm assuming we can?). A trade for an established SF that could also free up enough money to sign Hood. I don't know what cap value Nassir would have in a trade. What I am suggesting is something like Little (and a future pick?) plus Turner, Harkless and Leonard for Otto Porter and two years of Felicio. Wouldn't Little fit in a lot better with Chicago's timeline? (I almost want to run this by Hoopsjock before I post it so he can tell me why it's not possible. :) )
     
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    Until we officially sign Little he can be traded and doesn't count as salary in a trade. Once he signs he can't be traded for 30 days.

    In my opinion, you don't trade a guy who's value dropped in the draft before you see what he can do. If he plays well in summer league it's going to immediately boost his value to the point where teams actually could covet him instead of just being a throw in asset for a trade. I also don't agree with the timeline thing. If he can play he can help sooner rather than later. Simons was considered far away from contributing but it seems like he's so talented that they won't be able to keep him from getting minutes next year.
     
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    Sooo, it could work! Who knows how Chicago values him; they didn't have a chance to draft him in the lower lottery.
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Turner+Hark for Whiteside+Jones
     
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    To me, in reality the team has two timelines. The Nurk/CJ/Damian timeline, and the Zach, Anfernee, Little, and Nurk timeline. They could unload the young guys for a veteran, but he better be really, really good.
     
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    Trading Little would be dumb. He will contribute as a rookie just like Collins did, just wait on it. I don’t wanna add more bad contracts just for a short sighted “window” cuz if you don’t win the championship next year, then what? I might’ve advocated for a Gordon Hayward or whatever, and it might sound like I’m flip flopping, but I also smoke a lot of weed ok?
     
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    Collins didnt hardly get on the court his
    rookie hear, how did he contribute!?
     
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    Which team were you watching?
     
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    He played like 15 minutes a game... Most rotation guys are much closer to 20ish...
     
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    You’re really trying to argue wether he was in the rotation or not? He was playing closer to 20 minutes a game in the second half of the season.
     
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    To me, that seems kind of risky working with two timelines. I think all of those guys could be on one timeline even though their ages are spread out. But Little; he's another year back and he didn't really advance any in his one year of college. Otto Porter is not a great player but he is a really good player. He's still pretty young at 26, has a 7' 1" wingspan, shoots over 40% from three, 80% FT, plays decent defense, gets some rebounds and a couple assists per game. I think his contract runs out about the same time as Lillard and CJ so one could still start over if things didn't work out.
    Maybe it's not Porter but I think Little has late lottery value for a lot of teams and that Portland should have him available in the right deal.
     
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    Tough call. Not sure who the right player is, but if he becomes available then you are looking at ending contracts plus a young asset.
    We have 3 options there, Simons, Little, or Collins. Pick your poison. Ideally the young asset would be a future 1st instead of one of those, but who knows what the asking price is.

    As for Otto Porter the return needs to be at least as good as what they gave up: Bobby Portis, Jabari Parker and two 2nds. So yeah i would include Little.
     
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    No, Im just saying he didn't seem to be contributing much in his rookie season.
     
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    I couldn't disagree more with this line of thinking. I've mentioned this before but teams that don't prioritize developing young players no matter what the timeline is usually hit a wall when their players get over and fall off a cliff. Look at Miami and Cleveland post LeBron. They traded most of their picks while having LeBron on the team.

    Not many teams over the years that make a deep run in the playoffs can also claim to have a pretty solid under-22 developmental team as well. We have Simons, Trent, Little, Skal, and Collins all capable of popping at some point. I'm not saying don't trade them if you have to but that is some really nice potential that most good teams don't have outside of their normal rotation.
     
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    If anyone wants to be upset at RP and Lebron I think its this, he leaves teams basically devoid of talent, with not many assets, now its not his job to make the team handle their business, but I think Both Cleveland and Miami were giving up on their future in attempts to keep him happy.

    Now in LA if things dont work out talking about a team with not a ton of assets...
     
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    I agree, but with a caveat. While the current rotation made it to the WCF, I don't see how the team can maintain that success, let alone build on it, while relying so heavily on guys like ET, Hark, and Aminu. I'm not convinced Olshey will find adequate replacements for Curry/Hood/Kanter, let alone upgrades for the other 3. When you look at the sheer number of current needs, I have to wonder if Olshey can keep both balls in the air at once.
     
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