OT Batman Marathon/Review

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  1. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    Not a very high bar.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Hobbesarable Cartoon Character

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    No love for, Michael Keaton, the man who played Beetlejuice. :blink:
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    No.
     
  5. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    I was going to say that it’s too soon after surgery for you to be running a marathon, but then I googled “Batman Marathon” and got zilch. Dudes running in Batman costumes would have been awesome though.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Hmm. Maybe not as awesome as I thought.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Keaton is a superb actor.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Batman fight words:
    1. AIEEE!
    2. AIIEEE!
    3. ARRGH!
    4. AWK!
    5. AWKKKKKK!
    6. BAM!
    7. BANG!
    8. BANG-ETH!
    9. BIFF!
    10. BLOOP!
    11. BLURP!
    12. BOFF!
    13. BONK!
    14. CLANK!
    15. CLANK-EST!
    16. CLASH!
    17. CLUNK!
    18. CLUNK-ETH!
    19. CRRAACK!
    20. CRASH!
    21. CRRAACK!
    22. CRUNCH!
    23. CRUNCH-ETH!
    24. EEE-YOW!
    25. FLRBBBBB!
    26. GLIPP!
    27. GLURPP!
    28. KAPOW!
    29. KAYO!
    30. KER-SPLOOSH!
    31. KERPLOP!
    32. KLONK!
    33. KLUNK!
    34. KRUNCH!
    35. OOOFF!
    36. OOOOFF!
    37. OUCH!
    38. OUCH-ETH!
    39. OWWW!
    40. OW-ETH
    41. PAM!
    42. PLOP!
    43. POW!
    44. POWIE!
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    47. RIP!
    48. SLOSH!
    49. SOCK!
    50. SPLATS!
    51. SPLATT!
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    55. SWOOSH!
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    57. THWACK!
    58. THWACKE!
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    61. UGGH!
    62. URKKK!
    63. VRONK!
    64. WHACK!
    65. WHACK-ETH!
    66. WHAM-ETH!
    67. WHAMM!
    68. WHAMMM!
    69. WHAP!
    70. Z-ZWAP!
    71. ZAM!
    72. ZAMM!
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    76. ZGRUPPP!
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Finally found my copies of the original movies. I will continue with Batman (1989) tonight.
     
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Batman 1989 - Review

    Tim Burton’s Batman moves from the campy air of it’s predecessor into a foray of darkness and violence that fully brings to life creator Bob Kane’s vision of the character and his story. We are not in Pleasantville anymore, but in a truly dangerous place, a Gotham of jagged archaic buildings, steam, and shadows, where villains kill people at a moments whim, rather than employ comedic schemes that go awry. The best part of Burton’s take is not the set, or the musical genius of Prince and Danny Elfman, but the parallelism of the hero and character.


    Make no mistake, 1989’s Batman is no superhero movie. Michael Keaton’s Batman is no knight in shining armor. He isn’t a deputized member of the police like his predecessor, but a masked vigilante.The man behind the mask, his Bruce Wayne is conflicted, neurotic, and any remaining essence of good in him, if there is any, is in constant jeopardy of fracturing. Keaton is neither the tall, square jawed, bachelor that Bruce Wayne is usually portrayed to be. He is the everyday guy, awkward and reserved. Though, he inherited his parents riches and influence, he seems to be missing a sense of belonging. He has never been able to escape their death, and it has cut into him, creating deep flaws.


    In the beginning of the film we see him on a rooftop as Batman watch a family get mugged, and waits to do anything until the would be criminals escape to a nearby rooftop and wax apprehension that Batman might have seen them, and to extol the mythology of his existence. Curiously, Batman didn’t swoop down and take them out while they were robbing the family (A father, mother, and son) a perfect reflection of his own experience as a child. Perhaps, if they would have pointed the gun at the kid, as the muggers explained, their colleague had done sometime before. That had set Batman off. Then perhaps it is not as much about saving people here, as it is, about vengance…about mending the fractured pieces of himself. It is a Picasso of his own inner turmoils.


    The Joker is Batman’s mirror image, a caution of what he might become if he doesn’t escape the obsession of his parent’s murder. Jack Nicholson’s Joker, is far different than Romero’s, who was was more Punk’d prankster than killer. Nicholson is maniacal gangster, Jack Napier. Unlike any other Joker he is connected to Batman in the worst and closest of ways thanks to an unpopular but, poignant choice by Burton. He murdered Bruce Wayne’s parents, after uttering his now infamous line, “Have you ever danced with the Devil in the pale moon light?” He created Batman and in return Batman creates the Joker, by dropping Napier into a vat of chemicals later deemed Smylex. Oh, and he dropped him too, there was no slip, Batman/Bruce looked him in the eye for a moment, and let him go.


    Inexorably, though perhaps a bit impractical, the chemicals transform him into the Joker, though he already had his purple suit and favorite deck of cards…the characteristics were there…the chemicals just pushed him over the edge. Excuse the pun. His murderous and lunaticus tendencies are somewhat balanced by his quips and gags. After all what fun would the Joker be without electrocuting hand buzzers, acid shooting flower lapels, boxing gloves on a spring, jack in the boxes with dismembered hands and dead flowers, Smylex filled parade balloons, hand guns with three foot barrels and pow flags.


    Nicholson’s Joker is truly insane and he stills the show again and again. Though he relies too much on his henchmen when it comes to Batman, and isn’t a great physical combatant with him. Their fight is a psychological one. They created each other and they have to come to terms with that. It wraps itself up rather nicely, but it relies on both Keaton and Nichlson to bring that torment to life. “I have given a name to my pain, and it is Batman.”


    Viki Vale, the love interest (of both Batman and Joker) exists as the foil. She pushes Bruce to let go of his obsession and retire the cape and cowl, settle down and lead a normal life. She is supposed to represent the good, be the appeal to Bruce to come back from the verge of chaos. But. Bruce needs that edge to be Batman. She is the Normal life Bruce could have, but never will. Still, I never felt like that came fully across. The building of their relationship was the victim of the terrible editing and became an accelerated mess, lost between Napier becoming the Joker. The two never felt truly close, though Alfred thought such lame character building was enough to let her into the bat cave. Of course, he wanted to keep dear Master Wayne from going over the ledge too.


    In the end, even though Bruce/Batman kills the Joker(I am surprised they killed him off) and finally has vengeance for his parents death, he is left unfulfilled. After taking out the Joker in the clock tower, one would think Batman had cleared the bats out of his belfry, but hey. He could hang up the batsuit and get the girl, I mean why keep being the Batman, he did what he set out to do? They answer lies in the fact that he is Batman now, it is a part of him, ingrained in him. The movie leaves him at a cross road, with Alfred picking up Viki Vale and telling her Bruce will be late, while he stands on a rooftop, still Batman, peering of into the distance at the Bat signal, perhaps hungry for what comes next, perhaps weighing the burden that he knows is his and only his.
     

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