Bursting the Bazemore Bubble

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  1. CupWizier

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    What's funny is how many blame Stotts for the Blazers not pushing the tempo when the issue is obviously Lillard, just like it was when Roy was here. Players are comfortable playing a certain style and obviously Lillard and Roy are ones that liked the tempo to be at their pace. I have seen Stotts many times telling the players to push the ball so I don't see him as the issue. Not every player likes to run and we have had success with both Roy and Lillard running the offense.
     
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    We have one. Just listen to the players rather than your jaded opinion of the coach.
     
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    I do think Stotts gets a lot of blame for things that the players just don't do. But, Stotts isn't the type that would let the outside world know that. I also think it is harder to manage egos and team chemistry that people think. Many propose grandiose changes, without considering how that effects team chemistry. However, I do think Stotts has failed a couple times in the playoffs to make and implement adjustments needed to turn a series. He isn't perfect, but still may be the best overall coach for the team at this time. I would just prefer it if he got a really good defensive coordinator to help him on that side of the ball.
     
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    Stotts doesn’t have Nowitski right now.
    If he did or a comparable player to Dirk in his prime you would see more flex. You watched it when LA was here.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    This is an interesting take, because on one hand, you're saying that Lillard plays at his own tempo despite Stotts telling the players to push, whereas on the other hand you're saying he has no problem getting through to his players.

    To this point though, I'm curious (and I have no idea, because I haven't attempted to do the research) whether there's an appreciable difference in pace between when Dame is on vs. off the floor.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I don’t know why you’re comparing him to Turner.

    We didn’t get him to replace Turner in the rotation. Turner was our backup point guard, for all intents and purposes.

    Baze was brought in as a replacement for Hood most likely.
     
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    One of them only shoots three's when completely wide open and still can't hit at league average. There's the difference in your stats.
     
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    A coach can still get through to his players on majority of all issues even if there are times where they don't necessarily match up. .I don't see it as a problem and I doubt any coach sees eye to eye with all players on every issue.
     
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    He was likely brought in to take some of both of their minutes as well as some of Curry's and there is still a [possibility that Hood could be back.
     
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    this season:

    Pace with Dame on floor: 100.0
    Pace with Dame off floor: 96.3

    +3.7 is the biggest differential of all the rotation players. Last season, Dame's diffential was +5.4, by far the biggest differential. the year before, +2.6. CJ's differential over the same time were +1.4, +1.0, and +0.5

    that shows me that those blaming Dame for Portland's lack of transition and lower pace are pointing fingers in the wrong direction. It's a bogus claim, at least in comparison to everybody else on the team, especially the coach
     
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    Not at all. He spoke about the things they don't seem to be coached to do.
     
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    Meyers is a better screener than Nurkic...

    :dunno:
     
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    THIS.

    You must have wing players to get wide and bigs that rim run.
     
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    I’d agree with that, Nurk is like a million times better at rolling after the screen though, and resetting the screen.
     
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    I disagree with this 100% and anyone in management would do the same.

    Some people are able/capable of learning. Some aren't.
    Yes you try to teach in ways the recipient will grasp, but sometimes it just cant be grasped no matter who or how its explained.

    To just say its on the coach is very ignorant as to the many different ways people learn and don't learn.
     
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    How dare you bring stats to this argument!
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    An interesting stat, but pace doesn't correlate directly with fast breaks. I don't if there is any data to break down the types of plays that are run when a player is on the floor or not, but I have a SNEAKY suspicion that part of the differential is due to the pull-up 3s that Dame takes after crossing half court with only 6-7 seconds coming off the shot clock. (That many people HATE) That will speed up the number of possessions for sure.
     
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    This is ludicrous. You even supposedly played the game. Just because you want to be right? It shows a lack of experience and that you have even less experience teaching or coaching. The world and people in it just don’t work that way. Even at the professional level.
     
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    I have more experience doing both than the majority of this board so its funny that you chose that route, just because you disagree with me.
     
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    Anyone can learn how to set a screen. I love how some people are acting like it's impossible for some players.

    It's not rocket science bro. Anyone whos made the NBA has learned the game enough to get there and you're telling me that some NBA players cant be coached on how to set a screen? smh.
     

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