Lillard supermax would screw us

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  1. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry @Orion Bailey but this just wreaks of not knowing how the cap works. If Dame takes 10 million less per year we don't necessarily get that money to spend on someone else.
     
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    The cap in the NBA is nothing more than a govenor on an engine, to control a certain rpm/torque, in order to keep things safe for the operator. But you can by pass governor on an engine and get more revs and horsepower in most cases. You still have to be careful, but your going to kick ass on anyone racing you with a governed engine. It's happening now in the NBA with several teams willing to go way over the cap and even pay the penalty. They have ways to cover that cost or right it off. Call it, an elite level country club dues.
     
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    what's being talked is an extension, and that would only be for 4 years. So then, using your numbers above (I don't know they are correct), it would be a 4-year/185M extension (it seems I saw somewhere it was somewhere over 190M)

    what's funny about the panic about this is that I believe people are either losing their perspective, or they don't like Lillard

    by perspective, I mean this: only a blithering idiot would argue that Dame doesn't deserve a max extension. The tripwire apparently is attaching 'super' in front of max. So then, say that the cap in 2021-22 is 121M. Seems reasonable given the current cap and projections. Dame on a max deal would be eligible for 30% of the cap giving him a 1st year salary of 36.3M with annual raises of 2.9M. That would be a 4-year/162.6M deal which is 40.65M/year

    so then, going back to YOUR numbers, Dame's super-max is 46.25M/year while his standard max would be 40.65M. In other words, you're losing your shit about 5.6M/year when the full-MLE would be over 10M, the tax-MLE would be 6.4M and the tax line would be over 150M.

    If that differential actually "screws" the Blazers as you're projecting, they will be because they are managed by morons

    and as far as Dame accepting less that his max to help the team...he already did that with his last contract

    I'm not worried at all about Dame making 46-49M a year on a supermax. I am worried about Olshey giving CJ 40M/year on a max deal
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I dont care. He deserves the contract.

    I Will never waver from that. If your only purpose is to stay here until "you're right" then leave.
     
  6. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    I’d say that there is a higher probability of Simons getting promoted to Dame’s running mate and CJ getting traded than there is of CJ getting the max.
     
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    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    This is the first thread I read when I try and come out of retirement???

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    I think he deserves every bit of that money and we can still draft and trade for guys that can make this team even better than we were this last season. Rumor is that we're working on an extension for CJ as well at much less money than Dame. We have expiring contracts that can be used to acquire a player that fits our team with a longer deal. We have five guys on rookie deals. The team is set up for success with Dame and his supermax as the cornerstone of that success.
     
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  9. LayneStaley

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    No problem with this at all, now if CJ gets maxed I will tweak.
     
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    Also I don’t see anyway this screws us since when it kicks in our starting lineup will be.....

    Dame
    Simons
    Little
    Collins
    Nurk

    :)
     
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  11. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Oh, no. So screwed we are.

    Not.
     
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    Yoda?
     
  13. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    "Us," lol...
     
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    Dame walking would hurt a lot more....

    Just sayin, FAMS!
     
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    Who is this?
    WTF?
     
  16. Orion Bailey

    Orion Bailey Forum Troll

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    We dont necessarily? Or we dont?

    If its possible to do so, the. I say you do just that. There is kanter aT 10 mill right there.
     
  17. Orion Bailey

    Orion Bailey Forum Troll

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    It really is this in a nutshell. Cp3 helped make this reality so superstars could team up instead of compete against each other.
    The negotiated rules have really put it to the smaller cities ability to acquire and keep stars.
     
  18. illmatic99

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    I'm hoping for a massive cap spike in 2021
     
  19. Portland2014

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    Do you guys realize that in the summer of 2021 we could have had A TON of cap to SIGN A MAX CONTRACT AND THEN RE-SIGN LILLARD, CJ AND NURKIC?

    But instead Lillard couldn't wait and signed his contract now.

    DO YOU CALL THAT LOVE FOR PORTLAND? DO YOU CALL THAT WANTING TO WIN?

    NO, IT'S JUST OPPORTUNISM.
     
  20. GDiama

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    We can still have max contract available in 2021. Don't we? Let's see what we do with it. Or then you ll say we needed 2 or 3 because only one doesn't work? Maybe 15 max slots are enough for you?
     

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