Nurk Could Be Out Until February

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  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    all mostly true, but what is also true is that both breaks occurred on relatively routine basketball plays. Could just be coincidence...probably is. But it's also possible it's a sign of less sturdy bones

    by the way, leg bones are long bones. The area directly around a break will be stronger, but that's not true for the entire length of the bone
     
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    Um...because we actually research the recovery timeline for this type of injury? He’ll be back on the court in December in my opinion. Even that is conservative.
     
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    Yup, your google search is definitely more relevant than what actual doctors and the team are saying.
     
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    We’ve heard what Olshey said. Have we heard from team doctors?
     
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    Have you considered that I may have consulted a doctor on this subject?
     
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    Yes, unless that doctor has access to Nurk it's simply their best estimate.
     
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    lol...do you think it's possible that Olshey has heard from team doctors? trick question for sure

    so then, after he's spoken to team doctors after every time they make an evaluation, he comes out and says February. But apparently, he's lying....?
     
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    Why do you have to go from zero to asshole in 60 seconds? I'm just asking a question. Has anyone heard anything other than the snippet that Olshey dropped in that interview? I'm not questioning his timeline, and I certainly would think that he's had plenty of talks with Nurk's and the team's doctors. Hoopsjock mentioned doctors' reports in his post and I'm just asking if anyone has actually heard those.

    I think some of you live for confrontation on this board.
     
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    I havent heard anything recent from a medical professional.
     
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    Even if a doctor does have access to Nurk it’s still essentially a guess. My buddy’s son (who is a doctor) told me it will be a minimum of 6-8 months to a maximum of 1 year.
     
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    I was assuming Olshey was relaying what he's being told.
     
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    So why not say he'll be back sometime between October and March then instead of continually insisting he'll be back by December?
     
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    c'mon man...pot-kettle...you sure blasted up to asshole speed yourself in a goddam hurry

    you asked for the doctor reports....wut?...when do we ever get the actual doctor reports?

    The doctors will talk to the patient, his family, and in this case, Blazer management. I don't think they can talk to anybody else. They sure don't hold press conferences or call in to radio shows. All we will hear, maybe, is the patient himself, and usually, the GM or coach. And this far out, all we will get is vague timelines because every body is different and there can be all kinds of factors and setbacks involved in a recovery

    so that leaves us with what Olshey said and possibly, the Paul George timeline as a template. Both Nurkic and PG were 24 when they were injured. It took PG 8 months to come back. And when he did he averaged less than 15 minutes over the last 6 games of the season and he looked like crap. Using that timeline would indicate sometime in December. But Nurkic is a much bigger man than PG and he also plays, jumps, and lands in a more congested part of the floor while consistently enduring more contact. Just about every general factor would point to Nurkic taking a little longer to get back than PG; except of course for the factors that we have no idea exist or not

    Olshey very well might have been conservative with his estimate as a way to hold down expectations. The doctors could have told him Jan-Feb
     
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    Olshey could also be playing the game. Keeping opposing teams in the dark.
    Let them thunk feb. when he shows up in the court in December, teams wont be ready.

    Purely speculation but olshey does things like this all the time. Info is held very close unless he wants it out.
     
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    NO made one flippant comment in a summer league broadcast and its gets plastered everywhere Nurk is out til Feb. There is zero advantage for the team to say he could be back in December. Just means they have to answer questions leading up to and beyond if he doesn’t hit that mark. Throw out a way too conservative estimate and hope for sooner. Not sure PG is a great comparison. There games are night and day. PG plays vertical and cuts. I’ll lean more optimistic and hope for a December return.
     
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    There is literally no reason to trick teams that way. The schedule isn't even out yet. If he was close to playing in December that information would leak out. There is no way it would surprise teams.

    It is possible that Olshey is tempering expectations but with Whiteside in the mix I don't know why the Blazers would even consider bringing him back until they are 100% confident in his recovery.
     
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    I don't think anything Neil says is flippant. He's too careful.

    And I don't see why people are so up in arms about February. This was expected to take a year for him to return and he got hurt in late March. And we have Hassan to cover for him, so he can take his time on his rehab.
     
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    Nope, unless you count s2 blazer doctors, hahaha
     
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    What makes you think they won't wait till he is 100%. Maybee it's December or February or inbetween. Me, i'll just wait and see and not waste my time on baseless speculation.
     
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