Politics Securing The Border With A Wall, Duh

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  1. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    "I don't play those stupid games." Your words
    And I have no idea what Cup said or believes on this subject, nor do I care. It's extremely presumptuous to assume that somehow I got an idea from cup and proceeded to attack you with it. Extremely presumptuous.
    The reading comprehension bullshit is again more than extremely presumptuous.
    You are an extremely rude young man.

    I've no desire to continue to converse with you on this subject because it's a dead end.
     
  2. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    This subject has been beat to death. That's why I don't comment on it.
     
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    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    So you don't think these guys are ruthless killers and out to destroy what gets in their way?
     
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    The Professional Fan Big League Scrub

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    Sure they are. So are white nationalists. What’s your point?
     
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    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    I'm not discussing politics or walls, Im commenting on these killers that want to destroy anyone that gets in their way.
    These are not the everyday gang we've come to know and deal wit here, these guys are the worst of the worst.
     
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    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    I'm not talking about what nationalist or any ordinary gang. Why is it you cant just rebuke these guys for being savages? Sure I hate white nationalist two but it doesnt mean I should turn my head from these scum bags.
     
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    My point was nobody rebuked these guys intros thread regardless of who started the damn thing.
     
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    Lanny, you quoted a post where I quoted a post that had all the answers you are looking for. Did you read it???????

    I don't play those stupid games was inferring to me beating around bushes. I cant help if you turn that into me assuming YOU do that, of which I NEVER said.

    I don't wanna fight with you, I like you, but you quoted me asking me wth I was talking about when in my post I quoted Bodyman and all the answers are in that post. I can only assume you didn't read it if you are asking me what i'm talking about.

    If you did not read it, is that my fault, or yours?
     
  9. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    These guys don't stand a chance in the deep South. Them guys will nail them to a cross and set them on fire. My Alabama great grandfather once killed a Black who didn't measure up to his expectation of groveling to a White and threw him in the incinerator at night. Still alive when he was burned up? Who knows but I wouldn't have put it past him.
     
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    They’re scum bags. So are lots of people. Lots of groups. What we need to do is examine how much of a threat they really are and bounce that against our politics. Our choices. Our fear. And how that fear shapes our decisions
     
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    Lanny, I have a bunch of family in the south and non would tie anyone to a cross and set them on fire.
    Im talking about MS13 do some research on these animals we really don't want them in Portland Metro or anywhere else. These are not your urban gangs these guys are much more ruthless. They are leaving a trail of inhumane destruction and death.
     
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    whats to examine but their trail of death and destruction, all i'm saying with politics out of it, they need to be dealt with now. Peace, I wasn't attacking you , you are one of my fav posters and I respect your opinion for sure. This subject of ruthless gang killers hits close to home with me and my fam.
     
  13. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Of course they are but they are not alone.
    I'll bet your family is not from Alabama. When I was working in Atlanta I remember my dad hiring a crew of bricklayers and hod carriers who talked about how they were on the volunteer fire department in Rome, Georgia. They laughed as they bragged about how they let a Black family's house burn down without lifting a finger to help. There's some harsh people down there. Sure, they're good to you and me but that's because we're White.
     
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    I have family in Auburn & Mobile Alabama. Also, Statesboro, GA and Florida.
     
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  16. riverman

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    insulting in this manner is in itself...cowardly and hardly honest nor debate worthy.....
     
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    I don't think anyone in here supports gang members, other than maybe El Prez.
    Rebuking them in a spot (S2) where they'll never see the rebuke doesn't seem terribly useful or productive.

    barfo
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    My Alabama family is all in the Decatur, Huntsville, Birmingham area. One of my aunts went steady with a grand wizard. Her deceased husband used to sleep with a gun under his pillow which he planned on using to kill Blacks. One of my uncles used to joy ride with the window rolled down and swing a chain against Black boys riding their bicycles. My great grandfather murdered at least two people of which one was black and one was white. My grandfather liked to drink moonshine to excess and get into fights which he never lost, not even once. Had to cut one huge guy across the back of his neck with a straight edge razor which he kept in his boot, to win the most vicious fight. My cousin was on the Birmingham Swat team and to this day dislikes Blacks.

    My mom's side of the family is all in the Atlanta area where she met my father when he was stationed there in the Army.

    I remember when I was there in the mid 60s a guy by the name of Lester Maddox was running for governor of Georgia. He owned a cafe and a hardware store. When restaurants were beginning to get integrated, he told his restaurant patrons to come next door to the hardware store and grab some pickax handles, made of hickory, and they should use those to keep the "Niggers" out.

    Even in those days Blacks would get lynched for not being polite enough to a White, especially a White woman.

    These same people would be in church every Sunday. They even had occasional all night sing ins one of which I attended. Other times they would play with rattle snakes as a sign that they were true to God. I did not attend that but I heard about it.

    I've lived down there and I've known just how rough some of them can be.

    My aunt on my father's side, lived in Florida. While there she witnessed a gangland execution and had to be put in the witness protection service. She then bought two night clubs and two liquor stores. Some men asked her to sell one of the night clubs. She said no thanks. Shortly after her night club was burned. I worked with my father restoring the night club. She sent me to the bank with one day's take. I looked inside and there was $100,000.00 back in 1966. She married a small time gangster. I was reading a Life or Look magazine in the dentist's office and saw where he had been murdered on the side of a road in Louisiana. She then married the sheriff and all her gangster trouble disappeared.

    My father and I used to take an occasional weekend off to visit my grandparents in rural Alabama. One time we stopped for gas. I got out and went to get a drink of water from a drinking fountain. There were two fountains, one said Whites and the other said Colored. I drank from the Colored one. They must have thought I was one of those shitheads from up North even though we had Georgia license plates.

    I can only conclude that either you were isolated from a lot of the South or didn't spend much time there.
     
  19. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Pence is about one IQ point above Trump. Yeah, he's really that stupid.
     
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    I didn't say anyone in here supported gang members did I?
    I just found it odd that there were not any comments rebuking the actions of MS13. And of course you can rebuke actions of conduct anytime, anywhere.
     
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