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  1. 808Hornetsfan

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    Okay, let's get this week's contest started. Remember, a player has five posts at the most for each topic, so make sure you say everything you want to say or points will be deducted from your total score if you post more than five. The scoring system is going to be simple, I'll give 1 point for a good fact or statement, I'll give 2 points if you have a really good statement or fact, and at most I will giive you 3 points for a brilliant statement or fact, etc. I'll let the four analysts make their opening statements, and you cannot make your second post until all four players have made their opening statements. If someone holds up the group by not posting, I will cut them from the panel and select someone from the waiting list to take over. So let's get started! :dribble: Panel-BluffCityBluenoballer07Suns Fan GuyThe Captain Day 1- Topic 1With the 2007 NBA Draft only three days away, it's only necessary that we have some draft discussion for this week's showdown. With Ohio State center Greg Oden expected to go #1 overall to the Portland Trailblazers, and Texas forward Kevin Durant expected to go #2 overall to the Seattle Sonics, which of these two will have the more successful career with his respective team? This includes both on the court production, and overall team team success.
     
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    I think Durant will produce more for the Sonics as a team and for himself because the Sonics can now stretch the floor people like Ridnour, Allen, and Lewis if he chooses to come back wil bring an outside threat, while Durant provides an inside option. The Sonics are going to be a nightmare for defenses next year because of that. On the other side Oden in Portland will cause major chemistry issues. I think Randolph has to go if Oden comes to Portland. Randolph will only block the development of Aldridge and Oden if he stays.
     
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    +1 for Suns Fan GuyAwaiting the other three to make their posts...
     
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    No, it has to be Oden. You look at the champions in the history of the NBA, every dominant team had the star big man, who dominated the game. The exception being the 90's Bulls. When you have a guy like Jordan, you don't need a dominate big. But Durant is no Jordan.Celtics had Russell, the Lakers had Kareem and Shaq, Rockets had Hakeem, Spurs had/have Duncan and Robinson.When you have someone over 7'0 who can control the court with his size and power, you just can't stop him. Oden has that ability, and potential to do something great.
     
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    +2 for The Captain, the last few championships have gone to teams that had a dominating big man.
     
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    Can you only get 1-3 points per post? or can you make more than one point in a post?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jun 25 2007, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Can you only get 1-3 points per post? or can you make more than one point in a post?</div>you can get more if it's a really, really, really good post. [​IMG]
     
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    Can you explain, I'm a little confused. You have a scale of points for how good a point is in someone's post. But do you give out points twice or thrice if someone makes multiple points in their post?
     
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    Greg Oden will have the better career as far as accomplishments, and with his team already having a excellent low post scoring machine, last years Rookie of The Year, and are about to get an excellent post defender, I see Portland making an immediate impact in the West. As far as the future goes, in the past decade, atleast one team in the NBA Finals had a very gifted big man. Houston had Hakeem, Utah had Karl Malone, Phoenix had Charles Barkley, and of course the past 9 seasons either Tim Duncan or Shaq has been in the NBA Finals. That just proves that dominant big men get to the Finals, and tend to win more championships than teams built around a perimeter player.Kevin Durant will come out and in his rookie season get Rookie Of The Year, great stats, alotve endorements, everything a instant superstar gets. But unlike the Blazers, Seattle is still going to be a lottery team. Seattle with or without Durant is not a very complete team at all, they are what you call soft, they shoot alot, a bit lazy on defense...and I can tell you now Kevin Durant isnt helping that at all.So who will have the better individual career? Kevin Durant...thats until Oden starts getting the Finals. Whos team will be better with that specific player? Portland, they would probably be better than Seattle without Oden, but getting Oden hes brings a strong, tall, and physical presence where hes going to scare alotve people from going into the lane.
     
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    +3 for BluffCity :happy0144: Once noballer makes his post, you all can use the rest of your posts for the day.
     
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    This is a toss-up, but I think Oden will have the more successful career. Like I said before, centers like him only come around once every 5-10 years- the last great center we have had coming out of the draft was Tim Duncan in 1997. This guy has all of the tools to become an extremely productive big man in the pros; he's strong in the post, he blocks shots, claims space and rebounds- and most of all- he has heart and drive. Oden will be one of the most dominant in the next 10 years, trust me. As far as Durant is concerned, I think he'll come out of the gate doing well but probably won't win much with this Sonics team. They need more pieces and don't even know if Rashard Lewis will stay with them. Oden will bring his team further faster; Durant will probably be the guy that all the fans love with the big offensive numbers like Tracy McGrady or Vince Carter with no team accomplishments to show for it.
     
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    +2 for noballer07Okay players, you can use your last four posts to continue the argument..
     
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    Totals so far:BluffCityBlue 3The Captain 2noballer07 2Suns Fan Guy 1I'll leave the discussion open until 6pm tonight, then it will be closed and we'll await tomorrow's topic.
     
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    whoa....what about 12AM :biggrin:
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BluffCityBlue @ Jun 25 2007, 12:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>whoa....what about 12AM :biggrin:</div>thats cool, it just doesn't look like there's much more to say, but if you want to continue that's fine. Remember, you can debate with another person, just don't use up all your posts to quickly.
     
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    Just to keep things going:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Suns Fan Guy @ Jun 25 2007, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Durant will produce more for the Sonics as a team and for himself because the Sonics can now stretch the floor people like Ridnour, Allen, and Lewis if he chooses to come back wil bring an outside threat, while Durant provides an inside option. The Sonics are going to be a nightmare for defenses next year because of that.</div>Durant as an inside option? I sure hope they don't post this guy up full time. Durant is a perimeter player; sure he's 6-10 but his outside skills is the reason why he is a 3. Yeah, he has shown that he can do a lil turn around jumper while posting up, but with his frame and his skillset he shouldn't be their inside option. The Sonics do need a low post scorer, but they since they didn't get the first pick they can help that out in the second round with someone like Aaron Gray.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Suns Fan Guy @ Jun 25 2007, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>On the other side Oden in Portland will cause major chemistry issues. I think Randolph has to go if Oden comes to Portland. Randolph will only block the development of Aldridge and Oden if he stays.</div>Oden won't cause any more chemistry issues then they have now. If Randolph doesn't like it, too bad; he can step. Fans don't like him and he has too many problems off and on court. It's time for the young guys to step in for Portland.
     
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    +2 for noballer, he now takes the lead.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (noballer07 @ Jun 25 2007, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Just to keep things going:Durant as an inside option? I sure hope they don't post this guy up full time. Durant is a perimeter player; sure he's 6-10 but his outside skills is the reason why he is a 3. Yeah, he has shown that he can do a lil turn around jumper while posting up, but with his frame and his skillset he shouldn't be their inside option. The Sonics do need a low post scorer, but they since they didn't get the first pick they can help that out in the second round with someone like Aaron Gray.Oden won't cause any more chemistry issues then they have now. If Randolph doesn't like it, too bad; he can step. Fans don't like him and he has too many problems off and on court. It's time for the young guys to step in for Portland.</div>To add to this post: Remember Kids, George W. can bench more than this fool :happy0144:
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (noballer07 @ Jun 25 2007, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oden won't cause any more chemistry issues then they have now. If Randolph doesn't like it, too bad; he can step. Fans don't like him and he has too many problems off and on court. It's time for the young guys to step in for Portland.</div>I disagree, with or without Randolph, Oden isnt going to be a big offensive factor until a couple years, and by them Randolph o Adlridge will probably be gone. I dont think Randolph will have any issues about it, in a recent article its said Randolph is extremely excited about playing WITH Oden. The teams chemistry isnt an issue, its certain Trailblazers being very unhappy about the record and the margin between the Ws and Ls. I think Portland believes they will make a major push for a playoffs spot(which I think they are capable of doing) and Randolph understands to do that, hes going to have to get well with Oden.EDIT:CB4, you have to stop posting in this...
     
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    +2 for BluffCity, I had no idea that Randolph was excited to play alongside Oden. And yes CB4, try not to post in here, we don't want a huge thread with 5 or 6 pages. We should get a sub-forum for this.
     

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