Politics Securing The Border With A Wall, Duh

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  1. MarAzul

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    Horseshit!
    Origination in LA among central Americans does not make them American. However, the point is pointless since most can be and should be deported.
     
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    I do find it slightly amusing after having a run in with them, that the police suggested I avoid their town. WTF?
    But I followed the advise.
     
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    Los Angeles, California cities 'overrun by rodents' that pose public health epidemic, study says

    By Travis Fedschun | Fox News

    California cities overrun by rat infestations according to new study

    Increase in homeless population along with government restrictions on select pesticides have fueled rat infestations in major cities across California according to a new report.

    An ever-growing number of rodents in California -- particularly in Los Angeles -- is being fueled by a spiking homeless population and restrictions on rodenticides that are risking a public health crisis, according to a study released Tuesday.

    The report by political action committee Reform California cites recent rodent-related events over the past six months, including an employee at the Los Angeles Police Department contracting Typhus and a rat falling from the ceiling of a Buffalo Wild Wings onto the menu of a patron, as proof of an "undeniable problem" in the Golden State.

    "California is being overrun by rodents," said Carl DeMaio, chairman of Reform California. "Without immediate emergency action by state and local government, we face significant economic costs and risk a public health crisis."

    Rodent's can carry dangerous diseases such as typhus, plague and salmonella, in addition to their roles contributing to asthma.

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    In this Jan. 14, 2019 file photo a homeless encampment is seen along a downtown Los Angeles. (AP Photo/Richard Vogel, File)

    "Contrary to common belief, being bitten by a rodent is rare and is not the most common way diseases are spread. Nonetheless, reports of city workers being bitten by rodents is on the rise – with most recent cases being reported in Los Angeles," the report notes. "Two other vehicles of transmission are far more prevalent: fleas and urine droppings."

    The study also surveyed 23 pest control companies in California, and found that all of the reported that rat service requests were up almost 60 percent in the past year. Included in the study was a list of "rattiest cities" in the nation published by the pest-control company Orkin, which named Los Angeles as the second most rat-infested city in the nation behind Chicago.

    At a press conference at Los Angeles City Hall on Tuesday, DeMaio there were two particular reasons behind the rodent explosion.

    "First, the homeless population increase, which provides a source of food which supports population growth," he said. "Second, many local governments, including Los Angeles, have banned the most effective practices for detecting and eradicating rats."

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    Los Angeles streets filled with garbage, rats and typhoid

    About three-quarters of the nearly 59,000 homeless people counted in Los Angeles County in the past year were living outdoors, fueling concerns of a growing public health crisis with piles of garbage and rats near homeless encampments lining downtown sidewalks.

    Reform California said the rodent population can be controlled using the most effective tools for pest control, but Los Angeles discontinued use of second-generation anticoagulant rodenticides in 2014, a move the group claims that led to the spike.

    The report, spearheaded by DeMaio and various vector control industry leaders, asks Gov. Gavin Newsom to declare a public health emergency in the Golden State and require public entities to address the situation. It also calls on the state Legislature to oppose Assembly Bill 1788, which seeks to outlaw certain rodent-deterring products that use more robust chemicals but have concerned environmentalists.

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    "Instead of acting to address this developing crisis, California state lawmakers are just days away from passing legislation to ban the best rodent-control tools and methods available and would require use of less effective, so-called `green alternatives,"' DeMaio said. "It's madness."

    Pest control companies echoed that sentiment, saying their hands are tied by government regulations that force them to use "green pest control" to eradicate rodents.

    "The professional pest control industry has gone to Sacramento, we've explained as professionals to committees, that we as professionals know how to help you, you license us, you regulate us, but now you don't listen to us," Rob Cartwright of Cartwright Pest Control told FOX11.


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    Proponents of the legislation contend the targeted rat poisons often wind up having a deadlier effect when rats that ingest the poison are consumed by wildlife, according to FOX11. Proponents also contend such poisons present a danger to children who may accidentally ingest them.

    Besides a 12 percent spike in homelessness in Los Angeles County in the past year, another problem is illegal dumping. Last month, FOX 11 reported that Los Angeles County cited 85 downtown businesses for not having proper trash receptacles, exacerbating the problem of illegal dumping.

    The Los Angeles City Council recently allocated more than $6.5 million to the Los Angeles Bureau of Sanitation to cover costs of hygiene and health services and cleanup teams that will target areas in desperate need of cleaning. Mayor Eric Garcetti has said the revamping of trash-cleanup efforts and outreach to homeless communities using "cleaning and rapid engagement" teams to respond to problem areas.
     
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    When speaking of Rats, what is a green alternative?
     
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    Ex-FBI official: 'Insidious' MS-13 gang isn't after money, just wants to spread 'senseless violence'
    By Nick Givas | Fox News

    RICO indictments are the only strategy to use against violent, 'knuckle-dragging,' transnational criminal enterprises, says Chris Swecker, former head of the FBI's criminal investigative division.

    The former head of the FBI's criminal investigative division, Chris Swecker, said the notorious MS-13 gang from Central America isn't looking for wealth but is driven only by hate, and a desire to spread violence and destruction.

    "They haven't changed much since 2004, 2005. Their hallmark is just knuckle-dragging, senseless violence -- not to gain money, like the La Cosa Nostra or for a profit motive, but just for respect and turf," he said. "They have no purpose really, other than just organization around violence."


    The former head of the FBI's first MS-13 tass force gave some background on how the gang was formed and said despite managing drug and prostitution rings, they usually don't flash their cash out in public.

    He also said the MS-13 members living in America are lower on the totem pole of the organization, referring to them as "thugs" and claimed they aren't fueled by ideology.

    MS-13 MEMBERS SEEKING TO 'HIT' NY POLICE OFFICER LIVING IN PARTS OF LONG ISLAND: REPORT

    "They stem from El Salvador and Honduras, mainly El Salvador, where there was a civil war back in the '70s. And they sort of carried that on, by forming up this gang in Los Angeles. One for protection but two, to sort of continue the cause. But they really don't have any profit motive," he said.

    "They're into extortion, they're into drugs and prostitution but you won't see them driving fancy cars, gathering in a lot of wealth. They're a different organization in El Salvador. They're more of a paramilitary organization there. Here they're just a bunch of thugs."

    Swecker said they tend to target those in their own community and claimed there about 10,000-20,000 MS-13 members wreaking havoc in the United States today.


    He blamed the lack of security at the southern border for their entry and said it's hard to pin down exactly how many have come and gone in recent years.

    MS-13 GANG FINDING SANCTUARY IN LIBERAL STATES

    "They target immigrant communities. They form up around immigration communities... Most of them are illegal. They're in and out of the country all the time. But for whatever reason, they tend to prey on their own communities, which is insidious," he said.

    "What I can tell you is the numbers are a little bit fuzzy. There's about 10,000 hard-core gang members in the United States, maybe 20,000 associates of MS-13, and they come and go so frequently through our porous borders. They mingle in with the caravans. They've associated themselves with the Sinaloa cartel. They're soldiers for the Sinaloa cartel. They're into human trafficking. They're in and out so often, it's very difficult to pinpoint how many there are floating across the border at any given time."
     
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    Pentagon OKs sending 2,100 additional troops to Mexico border
    By Vandana Rambaran | Fox News

    Retired ICE Director Tom Homan says he believes President Trump's new immigration plan will need to be 'tweaked' in order for it to be passed by Congress.

    The Trump administration is beefing up troop levels at the U.S.-Mexico border, with the new acting defense secretary, Richard Spencer, on Tuesday approving a Department of Homeland Security request for an additional 2,100.

    The Department of Defense announced the move on Wednesday; the troops will join 4,500 others at the border.

    TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ANNOUNCES MAJOR CRACKDOWN ON ASYLUM SEEKERS

    About 1,100 newly deployed active-duty troops will assist with logistical support and aerial surveillance at ports of entry and airports in Texas, according to reports by Politico.

    And 1,000 Texas National Guard members, overseen by Republican Gov. Greg Abbott, will provide supplemental help to Customs and Border Protection staff to oversee two temporary migrant holding facilities.

    The move comes as Democratic lawmakers have ratcheted up criticisms of conditions at the border, assailing the treatment of migrants and refusing to provide additional funding for a border wall.

    For his part, President Trump has toughened up the rules for asylum seekers, the majority from Central America, by rolling out a new policy Monday that requires migrants to first seek asylum in another country on their journey to the U.S. before reaching an American port of entry.

    In late June, Congress approved a $4.6 billion humanitarian aid package to provide additional resources for migrants coming across the border.
     
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    The FBI rates the threat assessment of MS13 at the medium level. Perhaps your brother-in-law sees them in a sector where they are particularly problematic.
    https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/stories/2008/january/ms13_011408
     
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    It was.
    Now it has more members abroad than here in the United States by about a 4 to 1 number.
     
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    The FBI has a different assessment.
    https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/stories/2008/january/ms13_011408
     
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    Trump's racist immigration plan is going nowhere.
    Did you know that we still don't have a Secretary of Defense? Yep, the joint is run by acting myrmidons (toadies). I don't think Trump can get a Secretary that he wants even through a Republican toady Senate.
     
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    That article is from 2008. They have grown since then and I agree as a percentage they are still small but as a degree of ruthless violence that are up there.
    My brother in law is a very quite guy and hardly ever gives an opinion of the cuff but he's worried about this group as compared to others as they are about taking on territory rather than money. The big think though according to him is they are cold blooded and killing anyone that gets in their way. Also, and Im not a border wall guy but a improved immigration and security guy, NOT an Open Borders guy, put he's say;'s many of these scum bags are here illegally and many deported multi times.

    Im going to put his subject to rest, I just want us as a society to be vigilant.
    Lanny, have a super day, we are going over to see our new grandson Wyatt today!
    Rip City
     
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    So he rejected the 5 billion and shut the government down. Now he’s gonna have to fight to get the 5 billion and nothing has been built


    WHAT AN EFFECTIVE LEADER DRUMPF IS
     
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    I'll comment....The Attorney General and the regional police, CIA and FBI are in charge of dealing with organized crime according to their jurisdiction.....fuck criminals...all of them and the gangs they torment behind.....I honestly don't think anyone has changed that stance in my 65 years on the planet. The gangs should be easy to corral.....it's the politicians that worry me.
     
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    Horseshit.....citizens are citizens...even Latinos from Los Angeles....if you commited a crime would it be fair for me to say it originated with those "British Oregonians? If English is your first language I guess you get a criminal pass in the States? My ex wife grew up on the border of Tijuana....San Ysidro...she's a citizen ...her first language was Spanish....her ancestors came from Mexico and Guatemala originally....doesn't make her any less "American" nor her family or neighbors...just makes them proud of their cultural heritage...which is a good thing
     
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    65 years? Why, you're just a kid.
    You wanna see old?
    Here's a picture of Sly on a good day.
    https://images.pexels.com/photos/15...31.jpeg?auto=compress&cs=tinysrgb&dpr=1&w=500
    Now, here's a picture of me.
    https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/portrait-bad-old-businessman-600w-136729634.jpg
    I'm much better looking, you'll have to admit.
     
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    2nd childhood actually Lanny....taking full advantage of the perks that come with it
     
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    Ha!
    That make two of us. Exactly my response to your comment that seemed have nothing to do with my post.
    But WTF! Have a good day riverman.
     
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    I didn't accuse a family member of yours current or ex of having affiliations with organized criminals.....which is what your post implied Marz….your stereotypes not mine..and it's blatantly racist as well...
     
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    Yeah, rather dumb it was. But then you did bring up your wife in response to my discussion of MS13. I thought, man! This is haywire, we are off the tracks! So my smart ass response. I drove all day to get to the boat, I just did.
    Sort of pissed too, I find Sly just simply shut my thread down and won't say Why! I find that kinda chicken shit, perhaps two faced. At least too fucking liberal defensive. I know you get defensive too and some how I do not mind
    you are not the mod.
     

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