OT Fox News helped radicalize domestic terrorist Cesar Sayoc, say his lawyers

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    Cesar Sayoc pleaded guilty in March to mailing improvised explosive devices to 13 people, including many prominent Democratic figures, among them former president Barack Obama, former vice president Joe Biden, former secretary of state Hillary Clinton and Sens. Cory Booker (N.J.) and Kamala D. Harris (Calif.), as well as CNN. He drove around in a van festooned with political stickers and rants, one of them targeting CNN.

    And now his lawyers have filed a sentencing memo citing one of the sources of his radicalization: Fox News. “Mr. Sayoc was an ardent Trump fan and, when Trump announced he was running for President, Mr. Sayoc enthusiastically supported him,” write assistant federal defenders Sarah Baumgartel, Amy Gallicchio and Ian Marcus Amelkin in a submission requesting a lenient sentence of no more than 121 months in prison. “He began watching Fox News religiously at the gym, planning his morning workout to coincide with Fox and Friends and his evenings to dovetail with Hannity.”

    Cable-news watching wasn’t a lifetime activity for the 57-year-old Sayoc. By the account of his lawyers, he’d spent most of his life free from politics. Then came Donald Trump. Sayoc knew the New York real estate mogul from his motivational tapes. “Mr. Sayoc viewed Donald Trump as everything he wanted to be: self-made, successful, and a ‘playboy,’” reads the submission. “He listened to titles such as Think like a Billionaire: Everything You Need to Know about Success, Real Estate, and Life and Trump: How to Get Rich. The tapes helped Mr. Sayoc dream of a better life and motivated him to keep going. He pushed himself to work multiple jobs at once to get back on his feet....He followed Donald Trump’s career, watched his television shows, purchased Trump-branded products, and attended a Trump-sponsored career coaching event in South Florida. He was a Donald Trump super-fan.”

    The sentencing submission suggests that Sayoc’s affinity for motivational material was his way of coping with a traumatic childhood that included abandonment by his father, plus sexual abuse at a Mississippi boarding school. Whatever the case, his boosterism fed right into the message coming out of Fox News, especially in the early-morning hours — “Fox & Friends” time — and prime time, when host Sean Hannity soothes the president’s most dedicated fans, including top fan President Trump himself.

    Ever since the 2016 presidential election, journalists, academics and hobbyists have studied how traditional media, nontraditional media and social media teamed up to pipe false and dangerous ideas onto Americans’ computer monitors and TV screens. Much is still blurry, but the broad outlines consist of motivated political actors — including Russian actors identified in Vol. I of the Mueller report — posting nonsense on websites, Facebook and Twitter. Once thus platformed, the nonsense spread.

    This passage from the Sayoc sentencing memo affirms that the man who terrorized an entire country in the fall of 2018 was a participant in this ecosystem. From the memo:

    Mr. Sayoc began watching Fox News religiously and following Trump supporters on social media. He became a vocal political participant on Facebook, something he had not done previously. He was not discerning of the pro-Trump information he received, and by the time of his arrest, he was “connected” to hundreds of right-wing Facebook groups. Many of these groups promoted various conspiracy theories and, more generally, the idea that Trump’s critics were dangerous, unpatriotic, and evil....They deployed provocative language to depict Democrats as murderous, terroristic, and violent.....Fox News furthered these arguments. For example, just days before Mr. Sayoc mailed his packages, Sean Hannity said on his program that a large “number of Democratic leaders [were] encouraging mob violence against their political opponents.” Hannity Transcript, FOX NEWS (Oct. 11, 2018).


    To contextualize that moment from “Hannity,” the host was discussing remarks by Eric H. Holder Jr., who served as attorney general in the Obama administration. Rooting for a more pugnacious style of Democratic politics, Holder commented that he dissented from the lofty ideology of Michelle Obama, who said, "“When they go low, we go high.” Holder’s variation, as articulated on a campaign stop in Georgia before the 2018 midterms: “‘When they go low, we kick them. That’s what this new Democratic Party is about.”

    Read the rest here - https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...sayoc-say-his-lawyers/?utm_term=.9f9a2594cdfa
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Dumb. I think nutballs find plenty of sources to believe whatever goofy ideas that feed their fantasy worlds.
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    <facepalm>
     
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    Yeah...as much as I’d like trump to get hit by a truck and go away for ever, I won’t pin the blame on Fox News because some nut job decided to become a terrorist.
     
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    Fox news Sucks (like most major news orgs at this point), but lawyers will look for anything deflect blame for their idiots.
     
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    You guys are missing the fucking point. His DEFENSE attorney is CALLING OUT Fox News for the radicalization of a trump supporting domestic terrorist. Oh, this matters. Is there any other possible precedent here? Come on. I read this while I was taking a dump this morning and knew it mattered.
     
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    But.....the lawyer is using Fox News radicalization as a DEFENSE. Big fucking difference, man.
     
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    Well usually these guys say the devils voice in their heads made them do it.....it's simple....TV is the devil! Reality TV is the devil's spawn!
     
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    This is correct. Literally, reality TV turned out to be the devil's spawn. And idiots ate it up.
     
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    I used green font so that post wouldn't turn into a theological argument with a Trumpette
     
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    True Trump Derangement Syndrome
     
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    They start off by making "based MAGA" videos.

    Oh, it's true!
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    The doesn't mean it should be encouraged nor that additional encouragement won't fan the flames.
     
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    Fox "news" teaches their viewers hatred. This isn't the first time that I have heard of someone's views becoming more hate filled from religiously watching Fox "news". I am curious to see how it might work as a defense. My head tells me that it won't help much, if at all.

    I put "news" in quotation marks because Fox is not a news channel, same is the case with CNN and MSNBC.
     
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    ...say his lawyers...
     

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