OT El Paso shooting: 22 Dead, 24 Inured. Dayton shooting: 9 Dead, 16 Injured

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  1. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    They cover up other issues that need to be dealt with. And they are way overprescribed. Part of me wants to legalize everything and another psrt wants me to ban everything.

    I do believe getting people on a antidepressants is a huge problem in this country
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    bedwetting, obviously

    How many times do police pursuits kill dozens of people at a time?
    We do in fact have a problem with cars in this society, and as a result we regulate the use of cars.
    We have a problem with guns, but we don't regulate guns anywhere near as much as cars.

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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    You should get those parts to talk to each other, maybe they'd come up with a reasonable compromise.

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    noknobs Well-Known Member

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    Stephen Paddock who killed 58 people in Vegas was not a loner and didn't have asperger.
    Omar Mateen who killed 49 people in a Florida club was not a loner and didn't have asperger.
    Devin Patrick Kelley who killed 26 people in First Baptist Church was not a loner and didn't have asperger.
    Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik who killed 14 people in San Bernardino were not loners and didn't have asperger.
    Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold responsible for Columbine were not loners and did not have asperger.
    James Holmes who killed 12 people in a movie theater was not a loner and didn't have asperger.
    Aaron Alexis who killed 12 people in a Navy Yard was not a loner and didn't have asperger.
    David Long who killed 13 people at a Bar & Grill in Thousand Oaks was not a loner and didn't have asperger.


    To do what they did you almost have to have some sort of mental illness, but for some reason you seem so intent on pigeon holing all these people as socially awkward loners with asperger. Your discrimination against that thin slice of society and some of your comments about them is a little disturbing and offensive.

    If you know so much about asperger's, like you claim to, you should know that in 2013, the diagnosis of Asperger's was removed from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.
     
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    GhostOfPGA The late great Paul Allen

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    Trust me, I HATED the idea of getting on them. I didn’t wanna be the weirdo who has to take a pill everyday, but my family and friends all have seen the difference in me. I don’t think it should be prescribed left and right, especially to kids but for some it works. It also helps I was never suicidal or anything, I’ve never had a malicious thought go through my head either. I just needed the boost to stop being a loner at home and get out there and live life.
     
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  6. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Paddock was totally a weird loner. That asian lady was his nurse/caretaker

    https://respvblica.com/2017/10/08/m...s-vegas-shooter-had-autism-spectrum-disorder/

    James Holmes? Look at him, he is an total loner and "high functioning".

    The Trenchcoat Mafia weren't outcast loners?



    I believe that it is severely ignored and that many shooters are a result of the parents not getting their kids the mental help they need.

    National psychological screening should be done to confirm things like this.
     
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    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    So you choose to blame the car, and not the criminal? What car regulation stopped him from stealing it, or running from the police?

    We do, in fact, regulate guns. We've banned new machine guns from personal ownership, you have to get the Federal Government's permission just to own a suppressor (which isn't even a firearm) thanks to Hollywood's glamorizing, we require background checks on gun purchases, and every gun range in America has strict policies, rules, and people or range officers in place to enforce them.
     
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    Im not disagreeing with you, but there was a day when government military was the main fear and civilians wanted the right to have weapons of equal power to defend themselves against militia takeover.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    https://www.theneurotypical.com/autism-and-shootings.html

     
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    He'd been married twice, stayed on good terms with both and had a girlfriend and traveled a lot and had never been diagnosed with anything resembling asperger's. People can speculate all they want after the fact if they're like you and are invested in some type of narrative against a group of people. But liking numerical algorithms is not a valid reason to classify someone as having asperger's. It's well known he'd been losing wealth and was depressed, and loved guns. Anti-social behavior does not equal asperger's. Are you really this ignorant on the subject? If so, shut the fuck up.
     
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    Do you think driving would be better if we didn't licenses drivers, didn't require anyone to have insurance, didn't have any safety requirement on cars, didn't have any rules about speed, what lane you can drive in, how much you can drink before driving, etc?

    Good first baby steps, although inadequate in total.

    Big deal. That's like saying, for cars, that racetracks have strict rules. They do, but so what?

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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    https://respvblica.com/2017/10/08/m...s-vegas-shooter-had-autism-spectrum-disorder/

     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    That day is long past. And nobody is going to get a personal nuke, so the battle for equal firepower has been decisively lost.

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    Like i said, i don't disagree. Just stating i understand the reasoning at the time.
     
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    We have rules and, in fact, safety requirements as well. If you don't follow the rules of gun safety, bad things can happen; the same if you violate the rules of safety with a car.

    Hell, I can't buy a gun without having a goddamn safety warning actually engraved or printed permanently on the barrel. The barrel of my GP100 looks like a giant warning label.

    They aren't inadequate, actually. You just have to follow them like any law-abiding citizen. Shocking, I know....

    And there are strict consequences if you break the rules, that's what is so. On a racetrack, if you break the rules, you can hurt or kill someone, and you lose your racing license and privileges, and possibly face prison time as well depending on the circumstances. With a gun, if you break the law to a felony extent, which means that you either hurt, threatened, or killed someone, then you lose your right to firearm ownership, and you have to go to prison.

    That's how society works.
     
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    Sure. Let's just get everyone to obey the law. What's your plan for that?

    Yeah, the point is, most issues with cars don't happen on racetracks; most issues with guns don't happen at shooting ranges.
    You are actually arguing against yourself with that example - if gun ranges are safe, it's because they are well-regulated, as you state they are.

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    They would know because there is a thread on this exact page discussing his murder. I can’t believe you actually got two people to like this post aimed at me?
     
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    Agree completely. Seems so logical.
     
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    Punish people when they break the law. What else do you want? Put people in camps and watch them 24/7 and control everything they do?

    This is America, not a Communist dictatorship.

    You're right, it happens after a night of drinking. Funny though.....nobody calls for banning alcohol. I do, however, hear people stressing the importance of personal responsibility by not drinking and driving though.

    I've had 9 encounters with drunk drivers, including a double-fatality. Never once did I blame the beer they were drinking.

    You're right, they tend to happen in the inner cities between gang members. Go look at Chicago's firearm laws, and how badly they've affected the entire state of Illinois, then take a look at gang violence in Chicago, and tell me how those firearm laws are working out for them. Or how about Baltimore....I just read of a mass gang shooting there this morning on Yahoo; yet I don't see any mainstream news covering it. What is being done to stop GANG violence, and why is nobody talking about it? And why is this my problem as a law-abiding gun owner?

    Yes, unfortunately, bad things happen, and mistakes are made, even on gun ranges. I know of two cases where accidents happened because of negligence at a manned range, which costed two people their lives. Poor choices and mistakes happen. That is life. The best we can all do is be as safe as possible in our daily lives.

    I could die tomorrow in a car accident. That's not going to stop me from driving a car. I could go to the range next week and a child could inadvertently shoot me in the head on the firing line. That's not going to stop me from going to the range.

    And if someone sees something that is dangerous, they need to speak up and tell someone or, in the case of being out in public, call the police immediately. That's just being responsible. Exercise both safety and responsibility in your daily life, and you'll very likely be just fine.
     
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