OT El Paso shooting: 22 Dead, 24 Inured. Dayton shooting: 9 Dead, 16 Injured

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  1. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    1) Require all firearms to be registered and all sales to be registered.
    2) Require ammunition sales to be only sold with ID and info documented.
    3) A database so all sales of firearms and ammo can accessed by state and federal authorities.
    4) Require the capability to secure each firearm under lock.
    5) permit carry licenses however require ongoing training. (Something like 20 hours to get certified and 4 hours per month to maintain license)

    That’s a start.
     
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  3. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Should have guns physically inspected every 2 years, like a car registration as well. Just to keep database updated.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    And to get illegal guns off the street, there should be sweeps and checkpoints in areas of high gun deaths and incidents.

    This should be conducted by the military.
     
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    You wrote that both sides need to disavow the far right and left. I posted many times that he has but no its not good enough. You just don't want to hear it.

    Not really, there's also many from back when he was a dem and they loved him. IIRC correctly Jesse Jackson gave him an award for hiring minorities and another for helping out inner city youth, Al Sharpton was butt smooching him, the Jewish Anti-Defamation League praised him for raising awareness re discrimination, back in the 90's spoke out often about David Duke etc.

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  6. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Trump has condemned White Supremacy.

    When will the Democrats condemn radical Islamic terrorism?
     
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    Are you familiar those members of Islam on the islands around the Sulu and Celebes sea?
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    nope!
     
  10. MarAzul

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    Good! Their everyday standard seems pretty damn radical for humans to me.
     
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  12. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    He needs to disavow and stop the rhetoric. He "disavows" then continues the rhetoric, showing he doesn't mean it. It is a pattern that hasn't changed.
     
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    check out his history in the 70s before he hobnobbed his way into celebrity....he was an asshole then, he's an asshole now...sorry..I've never liked or trusted the guy..he'll do whatever to get what he wants, including switch teams and change his rhetoric....snake oil salesman...you're welcome to your opinion but what you posted is Trump spin from my view.
     
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    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    He's a businessman from Queens New York. Why is everybody so surprised at this? Of course he's been an asshole.

    Most businessmen are assholes, even the ones you THINK are nice. You think Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, or Warren Buffet are nice guys when it comes to business? What about Phil Knight, or the late Paul Allen or Steve Jobs? Nice guys don't get ahead. Assholes do. That's how they got to being at the top.

    Trust me, I know, I was raised by one; a devout capitalist, lifelong businessman who came from nothing and worked his way up the ranks in the business world. And he had to be ruthless to do it; working in China, the Philippines, Malaysia, Singapore, Europe, and the Silicon Valley. Nice guys who want to get ahead don't survive in those places. Now that he's in his 60s and on the cusp of retiring, he's a bit out of touch, arrogant, elitist, and an asshole, like most people in high ranks of business. I love him dearly, but sometimes I want to pimp slap him into the next universe. Oh, and he's NO fan of Trump either. Hates the guy. But....he respects his business success.

    99% of people in high ranks of business are assholes. That part of their personality is part of what makes them successful. And like him or not, Trump is successful. And don't give me that "but but but BANKRUPTCY!" bullshit either; he's a billionaire with 542 companies and products to his name. Again, like him or not, that takes a big level of success.

    I didn't vote for him to be a nice guy. If anyone did, you bullshitted yourself. Greatly.
     
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    yeah...he's an asshole...a spoiled rich asshole...when I was young he tried so hard to be cool and had to buy friends to have those photo ops....Trump was always a strange guy...rich, whatever...Candice Bergen put it best....she thought he was good looking in the 70s and she was young and starting a career....for the whole date he didn't listen to a word she said and talked about how great he was without a break....Trump was the laughing stock of studio 54...even today it's amazing how many champions we have that refuse to go have his fast food celebrations at the WH.....it's baffling beyond reason to me that we are living in a country where he could ever have such an important job and spend it flinging bullshit insults at everyone he's supposed to work with governing..praising dictators and insulting our friends...Warren Buffett and I grew up in the same midwestern areas....I've heard him speak several times and shook his hand...he's not an asshole...he's a man of common sense and integrity...big difference
     
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    Again you deliberately distort.

    What I have said is The Second Amendment as with the entire Bill of Rights says the right to bear arms comes with birth (NOT GRANTED BY THE GOVERNMENT) and cannot be taken, restricted, slowed down, charged a fee for, tracked, discouraged OR PREVENTED IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM BY the government. All government can Constitutionally do about the Right to Bear Arms is guarantee and support it fully. To do otherwise is tyranny.


    Criminals who are convicted of violating Constitutional laws like theft or murder (NOT any laws pertaining to the simple bearing arms of any kind in any instance, as these are not Constitutionally valid laws but rather they are open tyranny) are considered to have forfeited some of their rights by their actions, as the Constitution allows government to restrict the rights of those who refuse to follow the Constitutional laws of the land, and
    I have no problem with disarming convicted criminals and restricting any or all of their rights if appropriate while they serve their sentence.

    Constitutionally, once a convict has served their sentence (not during) they should instantly regain all of their rights as American citizens.

    So someone who served 10 or 50 years for murder and was released after serving his/her sentence should be given their gun back if it was confiscated.

    If they make a bargain to give up certain rights as part of their punishment/sentence without being coerced to, that's their choice.

    If someone is thought to still be a danger to society after completing their sentence, too bad. Legislate for harsher sentences or better yet actual rehabilitation programs such as Trump has been the first POTUS to do.

    Anyone convicted of any law pertaining to the right to bear arms is not in any constitutional sense a criminal, but rather they are a political prisoner of a tyrannical government.

    Glad I could clear that up for Sly, again.
     
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    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    LOL, right....

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/w...the-failure-of-american-capitalism-2018-02-15

    Nice guy indeed.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/s...dirty-secret-behind-warren-buffetts-billions/

    I like this part...

    Gee, sounds like something Trump would say, right?

    Don't worry though. Trump has given a lot of speeches and shaken a lot of hands too.

    ETA: For the record, I don't have an opinion about Warren one way or the other. But he's not a nice guy, unless you consider being a quiet asshole to be a nice guy.
     
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    Riverman - "America's most infamous cokeheads and sex abusers whose infamous hangout went bankrupt after criminal investigations were not tee-totaling, straight as an arrow businessman Trump's friends."

    Wow, what an "insult".

    LOL at Candice Bergen. Dumber than her dad's puppets. No pun intended.

    Warren Buffett is one of the most evil leeches in America, making his billions by crushing entire industries and ruining millions of American family's lives for money he will never be able to spend.
     
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    Is the defense of Trump now well other rich guys are jerks too...?
     
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