Politics 2020 Debate part 2

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  1. ehizzy3

    ehizzy3 RIP mgb

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    lol then Trumps dementia kicked in awhile ago if this is the bar.

    Start the impeachment process, maris approved
     
  2. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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  3. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    Did the candidates agree on what proper forum posting etiquette should be?
     
  4. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

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    You want a president to be pro war? You should get Bolden to run then. We would likely have plenty of wars.
     
  5. jonnyboy

    jonnyboy Well-Known Member

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    Once again, you’ve completely missed the mark.
     
  6. jonnyboy

    jonnyboy Well-Known Member

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    I’m Bolden and I approve this message
     
  7. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

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    I can only read your words, not your mind.

    I think that’s enough of a reason to actively dislike an anti-war candidate by johnnyboy
     
  8. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Did he say that in Pleasure, California of Toledo, Ohio?
     
  9. jonnyboy

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    I was referring to jewishinsider.com smearing Tulsi Gabbard because she’s anti war. I was criticizing them for it because I’m also anti war. I was questioning their motives as to why they would smear an anti war candidate.

    Once again, the context has completely escaped you and you’ve cherry picked a “gotcha!” Quote out of context.
     
  10. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

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    Like I said, I can't read your mind but can only read your words. Can we end this worthless banter now?
     
  11. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    You keep saying 'smear'. Do you have any evidence that what they printed was untrue?

    barfo
     
  12. jonnyboy

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    ‘Smear’ doesn’t necessarily mean ‘lie’. Aggressively trying to discredit someone using dubious claims could be considered smearing.

    Like Hillary and Benghazi. None of that was necessarily false, but at the same time many on the right were actively using those circumstances, whether dubious or not, to try and discredit (or smear) her.
     
  13. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    As I remember it, all jewishinsider.com did was report what the Daily Stormer wrote. That reporting is either factual or not - it's not a matter of opinion.

    Certainly many people tried to smear Hillary on Benghazi, but I wouldn't consider reporting on the facts surrounding Benghazi to be a smear, even if the subject is only brought up for political reasons.

    I'd say even pointing out that Donald Trump was a bedwetter up to the age of 19 isn't a smear, if it's an actual fact (it isn't, so far as I know, because I just made that up to smear him).

    Anyway, people probably are out to get Tulsi - there are knives out for most all the candidates now. But that doesn't mean that any attack is a smear.

    I think the interesting thing about this one is - why are the Nazi's supporting, or pretending to support, Tulsi rather than someone else? Are they trying to boost her candidacy or sink it? And if the former, is it to weaken another candidate, or because they actually like her?

    I don't think it has much to do with Tulsi herself, I do not think she's trying to appeal to Nazis. But then again, she did willingly meet with one in Trump Tower after the 2016 election.

    barfo
     
  14. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    This is sadder than Reagan's final days...

    Biden says he was VP at time of Parkland shooting in latest campaign gaffe
    By Louis Casiano | Fox News

    Joe Biden slipped up once again on the campaign trail Saturday, saying he was vice president at the time of the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., adding to the number of mishaps that have drawn mockery from his opponents.

    The 76-year-old Biden, who left the vice presidency in 2017, was talking about gun violence with reporters in Iowa when he said that “those kids in Parkland came up to see me when I was vice president" after the shooting that left 14 students and three educators dead.

    The gaffe is the latest in a string of blunders that has dogged the 2020 Democratic frontrunner.

    On Thursday, the former vice president told a crowd that "poor kids were just as bright and talented as white kids."

    Earlier this week, Biden mistakenly said the recent mass shootings in El Paso, Texas and Dayton, Ohio took place in Houston and Michigan.

    President Trump has tried to seize on Biden's well-publicized gaffes to make the case that he isn't fit to lead the country. On Friday, the president said Biden "is not playing with a full deck" in response to his "poor kids" comments.

    Trump also piled on Saturday, asking on Twitter if Biden was fit to be president.

    "Joe Biden just said, 'We believe in facts, not truth.' Does anybody really believe he is mentally fit to be president? We are 'playing' in a very big and complicated world. Joe doesn’t have a clue!"

    The tweet appears to refer to Biden's Thursday speech at the Iowa State Fair when he said: “We choose science over fiction. We choose truth over facts.”
     
  15. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Orange you glad he did that?
     
  16. CupWizier

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    snicker

     
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    MARIS61 Real American

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    What makes you think poor people are more deserving than someone who pays their own way? If you are a poor, able-bodied adult of sound mind in America, actually poor, then it's likely you are either lazy, or stupid. Certainly not what I'd call deserving.

    This is exactly what Obamacare did to my family, and most of the 14 million self-employed Americans, which includes some of our most ingenious and industrious immigrants. We were instantly priced out of our private insurance, which rose immediately in cost due to taxes Obama put on it. Then we were forced to use Obamacare, which was way more than our previous private, then got cancelled midyear with no alternative because I could not "predict" my future earnings (Real Estate commissions on however many homes I might sell and at what price) for the year to their satisfaction. Then they levied fines of thousands of dollars because I did not have insurance. This went on for 3 years straight, with us paying an average of $15,000-$20,000 in fines and totally useless Obamacare insurance with a $12,500 deductible. All the while one or both of us was paying 100% out of pocket for extensive healthcare that had always been covered by insurance for before Obamacare.

    The next 3-4 years we just paid out of pocket and didn't even apply for Obamacare, and borrowed on our home to pay the fines. Last year we are finally free from unconstitutional taxes and fines again, thanks to POTUS Trump. Overall, Obamacare was about a $50,000 theft from our family which we will never recover, leaving us without health insurance in our sixties. I will get Medicare next year but my wife has 5 years before she qualifies. Sanders/Warren are trying to see to it that there's nothing left for her in 5 years.

    On the plus side, most healthcare providers in Beautiful Central Oregon will give you a discount of 25%-40% if you have no insurance.

    Supposed universal healthcare would make Obamacare seem a bargain, while bankrupting Medicare within the first 2 years.

    People with 3-digit IQ's realize this instantly, which is why the commies will never have a chance at our Presidency.

    TRUMP 2020!
     
  18. TorturedBlazerFan

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    Sorry, Im not buying it, you came up with 50k for the government to, “steal”, but couldn't get private insurance? The insurance would've been a heck of a lot less...

    Also, your last comment is ridiculous. Many incredibly intelligent people disagree on things all the time. Many very intelligent people will vote for Trump and many intelligent people will vote for someone else.
     
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  19. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I am not buying Maris' numbers. It's impossible to pay as much in fines as he suggests, as the fines are (were) capped at a much lower number.

    barfo
     
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