OT White people don’t want to hear about slavery at plantations built by slaves

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  1. MarAzul

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    To be fair, I can't imagine touring a plantation to get a feeling of how slavery was either. Just can't see put out really money for that picture.
     
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    Hmm?

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    I think it's pretty clear what to expect on their website.

    https://www.ccprc.com/1447/McLeod-Plantation-Historic-Site
     
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    A lot more than that. You are down playing it. You also assume that non slave holding whites had no role or benefit from slavery.

    Yes, many of our ancestors came after slavery was abolished. But, those of us who have learned no lesson from it, refuse to see the effect of it in today's society, who dimiss and attempt to disqualify themselves from responsibility, well shame on them.
     
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    I would never have a wedding or any event there
     
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    Yep. Its fucked. Our race is complicit in so many nasty ways in terms of the history of this country. It should not be shelved or hidden.

    Like i always say. Own. Your. Shit.
     
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    Yep. The north made a ton of money off slavery in the south.
     
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    >>>Sure they did. Damn near a million of them died in the war or as a result of it.

    >>> Yep, my family came much later, when my dad was a young boy.

    Slave quarters.png

    Those houses look very much like the one I rented when the house I had been living in burned down. I was almost 16 then, damn glad to find something I could afford.
    In retrospect, I think it was the good heart of the old boy that owned it.
     
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    Seems to me that the proper response to slavery should be an introspective somber experience, call it depression, sadness whatever. They’re doing it right if they’re “guests” leave and have a deep empathy for those who were enslaved there.
     
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    The majority of those who died gave their lives to end slavery. The Union won, sorry if you would have preferred it went the other way. You good old boy you.
     
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    As an observer of that period in history, I have no preference. History is what it is if told close to accurately. It really isn't told all that accurately by those that feel a part of it.
     
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    No preference huh. Ok. It hasn't been told accurately at all. The history books in schools are full white washing and lies. The truth is, there is a lot of blood there that can't be washed away.

    Let me guess you see slavery as neither a good or bad thing. It simply was.
     
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    This is an example of the inaccuracy. Many died in the on both sides, in the war started by Lincoln, because the southern states seceded from the United States. Ending slavery became a goal of the War, after Lincoln's Emancipation declaration, well into the war.
    When people of the North were damn sick of the very high number casualties being suffered. Lincoln was losing control so he made the emotional appeal to free the slaves.
     
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    Ha!
    Inferring without using logic again Chris!
    There is nothing good about slavery. Well I suppose it was good back in the day when taking slaves was seen as better than slaughter the losers. Sort of charitable.

    No, it is much more practical today, to hire immigrants dirt cheap and send them home every night. If they get sick and can't work, you just hire another, or better yet, leave it to the field boss.
    Those Southern Plantation owners, it seems to me, just had not thought the whole problem through completely.
    Just my observations.
     
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    I inferred nothing. I just wondered what your take was. You say there is nothing good about slavery, then find good in it?

    So, if slavery were practical you would be for it. Thank goodness for those immigrants who will work for near nothing. Oh, that too is a form of slavery.
     
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    Never knew blood had different colors.
     
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    It doesn't. Never said it did.

    The blood spilt by those who fought against slavery black and white and all else are the same color. Those who fought for slavery, there blood is same color, though they would not accept it. Those who bled at the whips, who were beaten and raped and tortured, and murdered because of the color of their skin; their blood is the same color. A lot of blood has been spilt, and we would do good to remember it. That it is all the same color.
     
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    Do you question that taking conquered people as slaves is less heinous than slaughtering them?
     
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    I think in ways its more heinous. Both are heinous. A lesser evil isn't good, it's still evil.
     
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