Politics 3rd party candidates

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  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Trump has a solid cult following of about 36% of the population (you know who you are).

    There are another 0-8% that might vote for him, depending on which way the wind blows on election day. There's no indication at present that he could possibly get near 50%.

    In a real two-person race, that would mean defeat. But if significant numbers of people vote for a 3rd party candidate, then it's plenty enough to win (see, e.g., 2016).

    So I believe Trump will do everything he can to encourage third party candidates, up to and including financing their campaigns (or having some of his friends overseas finance them) with or without their knowledge, and/or bribing them with job offers, cash, girls, drugs, if that's what it takes. Or alternatively, blackmailing them.

    So who is it going to be? There are already several possibilities:

    Justin Amash - he'd peel some anti-Trump voters away from the Democrat
    Andrew Yang - he seems to be aiming at independents more than democrats. I don't have any reason to believe he'd go independent if he doesn't get the D nomination, but he's well positioned to if that's his desire
    Tulsi Gabbard - She seems to appeal to conservatives quite a bit, as evidenced here on S2. She has already shown some interest in being on team Trump. If she chose to, she'd take some votes from the D nominee.
    Howard Shultz - entirely possible he gets back into it again, he really believes he should be president.
    Someone from Green Party - will get a percentage of votes no matter who it is
    Someone from Libertarian Party - same comment as Green

    Others?

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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I plan on running on the S2 ticket.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Who is your running mate, and most important, what is your position on free beer?

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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Did someone say free beer? I'm all in for some of that action.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    A beer in every pot? You've got my vote.
     
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    santeesioux Just keep on scrolling by

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    THE HCP to get the Polish vote.
     
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    IMO, if the dems come with a candidate that’s more centrist and palatable to moderate dems and independents they would win.
    But if they nominate an extreme progressive social dem, it’s not going to be easy in 2020. Maybe 2024
     
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    Dems should have won if anyone but Hillary or Bernie ran in 2016. Can they learn from it?
     
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    The two moderates from Maryland and West Virginian would have beaten trump.
     
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    Please cite this for me. I’m not calling you out, but would like to know where you got this information.
     
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    Bernie would have won.
     
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    I didn't get invited to the first two parties....and usually the party would follow me back in the day
     
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    I dont really think so. I think many of the states that voted blue wouldve been stronger shades of blue. Im not sure he wouldve turned red states blue though.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Actually, I'll have to admit I was sort of trolling you by including her. The backup is that she went to visit Trump in Trump Tower after the 2016 election.

    Why did she do that? It sounds from this article that Steve Bannon wanted her in the administration, and she was willing to consider it.

    Or maybe she's just drawn to creepy guys (Assad, Trump, Bannon)?

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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    $1000 bucks a month for free beer
     
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    Ok, I was calling you out.

    And I’m glad I did, because nothing in that article supports your claim. There was literally no mention of her considering a position in Trump’s cabinet.

    Why has any congressperson met with Trump at all in the last 3 years? Are they all considering a position in his cabinet? Or are they all just attracted to creepy guys?
     
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    MARIS61 Real American

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    The Democratic Party is the 3rd party, (just look at their pathetic lineup of bat-shit crazies), and their candidate will get an appropriate number of votes for a 3rd party candidate.

    America has no 2nd party, and views the Republican Party as just a tad less corrupt and a tad more sensible than the Dems.

    Trump has exposed both parties as the swamprats they are, and he will win by a large margin.
     
  18. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Heh. She met with him during the transition. Show me how many other D congresspeople did.

    She was vetted by the Trump transition for a position (we know because the vetting documents leaked).

    Now, maybe in the end she just wasn't interested - but she was interested enough to go to NYC to talk about it.

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    Trump sent her to a vet?
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Looks like the front runner, Biden, is your man. Not a bad choice.
     

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