Grade Olshey Thus Far As Blazers GM

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by ABM, Aug 16, 2019.

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What Overall Grade Do You Give Olshey?

  1. A+

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. A

    4 vote(s)
    6.1%
  3. A-

    11 vote(s)
    16.7%
  4. B+

    19 vote(s)
    28.8%
  5. B

    19 vote(s)
    28.8%
  6. B-

    5 vote(s)
    7.6%
  7. C+

    3 vote(s)
    4.5%
  8. C

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  9. C-

    2 vote(s)
    3.0%
  10. D

    2 vote(s)
    3.0%
  1. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Ummm.... Most people -including me - only had an issue with the afflalo thing.

    I think bones is pretty spot on with most everything else.

    I harped on the afflalo thing a bit much in this thread in my opinion............
     
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  2. calvin natt

    calvin natt Confeve

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    We should be able to see who voted what on the poll
     
  3. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    I'm not trying to change anybody's mind. Just stating my opinion, just like everyone else in this thread. Why can't you let me have an opinion without continually arguing it over and over again? As you said, you won't change my mind.
     
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  4. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    There's no problem in that! This forum is for discussing Blazer basketball, so I don't see lengthy discussion on any Blazer topic as an inherently bad thing.
     
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    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    I think an A or A+ is extremely hard to get because external factors make perfection nearly impossible. Olshey he has done two things, in my opinion, that bring him down from an A/A+ grade to a B-. The first thing is when he hamstrung the team with his spending in the summer of 2016. We're now getting past that debacle but it was 100% Olshey's fault and it held this team back for three seasons. The second thing he's done is keeping CJ for the long hall. I still contend that CJ's game is not an ideal fit next to Dame offensively and that he is a nightmare fit next to Dame on defense. That's the negative but the positive is more compelling. The players Olshey has drafted have been really successful after the two years of adjustment Stotts seems to require. Getting Dame to commit to this team despite it being a small market is most likely just a function of Dame being Dame but since I have no insider info to support that, Olshey gets a little credit for Dame staying. Olshey has also had two really impressive pivots. One when LaMarcus left and the other, this off season when he made some of our expiring contracts into Whiteside (who we needed to fill in for the injured Nurk) and Bazemore. That along with keeping Hood and a few other good moves has made this off season as successful, in my opinion, as 2016 was detrimental.
     
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  6. CupWizier

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    The poll speaks for itself. 96% of the voters disagree with him and he continues to basically repeat the same thing. State your opinion, make your case and then accept the results.
     
  7. Hobbesarable

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    I enjoy reading his takes even if I disagree.

    If you don't want to read his opines then don't read them or put him on ignore. It's that simple.
     
  8. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    So because he isnt in the 96% he doesnt get to restate his opinion? It's not like its fact and he was proven wrong.
     
  9. TorturedBlazerFan

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    I gave it a b-, and personally I see most of the points made by bones, I think he’s being a tad harsh on some of them, and not giving as much credit for other things as I would. Its just our opinions though.
     
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  10. borim69

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    Personally I would give him an A+ for NOT getting Kevin Love or Blake Griffin at this point. 2016 was a fiasco but someone had to get paid and there was nothing out there. It was a bad year for FA prospects and the cap went up 15%? One thing you have to remember in FA the player has to say yes. You cant get laid in a brothel if you look like John Merrick and have no dick no matter how much gold you got. That is what happened to us when LaMucus left us and the rest of the lineup left as well. As far as Batum goes he sure is tearing it up for Charlotte right now. He did not want to be with us and we should have let him walk the first time. So while the rest of the NBA was chasing LeBron, George and Durant trying to get a ring, Neil is out there with bars of gold in a flea market tent just trying to get someone who can play worth a shit to come to Portland.
    Now that we made it to the WCF with Building from the Draft and some bargain basement players people are starting to take notice.
    B+
     
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    On the contrary, batum has been fucking awful for charlotte. He got paid, yes... But his numbers are shit lol.
     
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    I really assumed he was being sarcastic. If he's serious then there's a problem because Batum has made us look lucky that we lost him when we did.
     
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    I guess I should have put that in green font?
     
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    I liked your post overall but i guess it just gave me pause at the beginning with this? Blake Griffin is a beast no matter how you cut it. K-Love has value and is also a sound player. Either addition might be very good but it would have to be for the right price or combination of players. Portland had some awful contracts. Turning those bad contracts into either player would have been a good move IMO.
     
  15. CupWizier

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    If that's what you got from my post then you clearly missed the point. Oh well. :smiley-hmm:
     
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    You forgot about Giannis... the league MVP who Olshey passed on drafting.

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    So did 13 other GM's. Olshey actually did better than the majority of the GM's in that draft.
     
  18. UKRAINEFAN

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    Your grade is interesting considering your summary. After reading your summary, I lowered my grade to a C+; BTW you forgot drafting of Swanigan on your failures (but I guess that was ameliorated somewhat by the trade for Labissiere).
     
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    So he gets credit for passing on drafting the league MVP because others did too? Okay...

    That was his shot at making Portland a champion instead of sweep victim. He's made some good moves and some bad one's, I may have been generous handing out a B-. What bothers me maybe most is how many years do we have to go without a SF shooter to keep playoff Ds from completely collapsing on Dame & CJ? It's the same swan song every year.

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    What you are failing to understand is that Giannis was drafted where he was because he hadn't done all that much. Hindsight is great, but were you here before the draft touting how great he was going to be? He was 18 years old and had limited exposure. Like I said, compared to most teams, Olshey did very well in that draft as McCollum is easily a top 5 talent from that draft and was picked at 11th.
     

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