Game Thread 2020 Debate Part 3 - Sept 12

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by barfo, Aug 28, 2019.

  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    32,711
    Likes Received:
    22,761
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Blazer OT board
    They weren't the only one. Chrysler was also bailed out.

    That's incorrect - the entire auto industry, worldwide, was in crisis at the time.

    Also, I think you missed the larger point of my 'example'.

    barfo
     
  2. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    32,711
    Likes Received:
    22,761
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Blazer OT board
    The answer is of course no.

    barfo
     
  3. MarAzul

    MarAzul LongShip

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2008
    Messages:
    21,370
    Likes Received:
    7,280
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Life is good!
    Location:
    Near Bandon Oregon
    :wink:
    Really not the same thing at all is it?
    err, maybe you do not know?
    Ah! Carry on.
     
  4. MarAzul

    MarAzul LongShip

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2008
    Messages:
    21,370
    Likes Received:
    7,280
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Life is good!
    Location:
    Near Bandon Oregon
    Oh man!
    This is...
    Carry on!
     
  5. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    32,711
    Likes Received:
    22,761
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Blazer OT board
    FTFY.

    barfo
     
    CupWizier likes this.
  6. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2014
    Messages:
    19,702
    Likes Received:
    16,264
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I rather assist independent farmers, as we do independent people in need, rather than a large Corporation that really didn't need the help, as they could have restructured, bankruptcy or simply managed their business with more fiscal responsibility. Im all for business big or small to be successful and prosperous, especially here in the good Old USA.
     
    jonnyboy likes this.
  7. riverman

    riverman Writing Team

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2013
    Messages:
    66,371
    Likes Received:
    64,527
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Assisting independent farmers wouldn't be killing off their market for political posturing. ….and farmers have Co-ops....often work together bring in the harvest....not every small farmer can afford to buy large combines....many share one amongst several farms...they answer to the weather normally, not a trade war. Trump doesn't actually give a shit about them.
     
  8. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2014
    Messages:
    19,702
    Likes Received:
    16,264
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You could right?
    I’m all for the farmer!
    I wonder who they will support next election. Not Trump if it’s a moderate but if it’s Bernie or EW not so sure.
    Joe or Klobachar could win, imo.
     
  9. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2009
    Messages:
    11,265
    Likes Received:
    7,664
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired
    Problem with that thinking HG is that a lot of small businesses rely on large corporations for business as they often manufacture or provide a service for the large corporation. In Portland it was often said that when Freightliner sneezes several small businesses catch cold. In other words, when Freightliner had slowdowns and massive layoffs many small businesses would be hurting big time and possibly went out of business. I did a lot of business with Freightliner as well as several smaller local businesses that relied on business from Freightliner and we were a petroleum and chemical distributor and it affected us. Ignoring large business often has significant residual effects on many more smaller ones. Precision Cast Parts was similar in the effect it had on the economy locally. If one large corporation fails so do many smaller ones.
     
    Hoopguru likes this.
  10. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    53,695
    Likes Received:
    54,785
    Trophy Points:
    113
  11. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2014
    Messages:
    19,702
    Likes Received:
    16,264
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Excellant points, I was expressing my feeling on GM's getting bailed. If a company like GM gets bailed then others should too, like Freightliner when they had all their issue.
    Im all for balance and fairness.
     
  12. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    53,695
    Likes Received:
    54,785
    Trophy Points:
    113
  13. calvin natt

    calvin natt Confeve

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2017
    Messages:
    7,520
    Likes Received:
    10,457
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland Suburb
    Chris Craig likes this.
  14. MarAzul

    MarAzul LongShip

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2008
    Messages:
    21,370
    Likes Received:
    7,280
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Life is good!
    Location:
    Near Bandon Oregon
    Will being the first woman of color in the Harvard Law School, help her or hinder?
     
  15. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    32,711
    Likes Received:
    22,761
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Blazer OT board
    Q: What percentage of Trump's farm bailout goes to small farmers?

    A: A very small percentage.

    barfo
     
  16. MarAzul

    MarAzul LongShip

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2008
    Messages:
    21,370
    Likes Received:
    7,280
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Life is good!
    Location:
    Near Bandon Oregon
    I would expect every small farmer, would have several zeros behind the decimal before a digit is given when showing their percentage take.

    You might say it is .0ex or insignificant, but bet they like it.
     
    Last edited: Sep 21, 2019
  17. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    32,711
    Likes Received:
    22,761
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Blazer OT board
    The point is that all of the small farmers added together still get a very small percentage.

    barfo
     
  18. MarAzul

    MarAzul LongShip

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2008
    Messages:
    21,370
    Likes Received:
    7,280
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Life is good!
    Location:
    Near Bandon Oregon
    What is the percentage?
     
  19. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    26,638
    Likes Received:
    16,946
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Elec. & Computer Engineer OSU Computer Science PSU
    Location:
    Lake Oswego, OR
    You need to read this article from Reuters on the wealthiest farmers receiving almost all of Trump's farm aid.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...althiest-farmers-advocacy-group-idUSKCN1UP28K
     
  20. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    26,638
    Likes Received:
    16,946
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Elec. & Computer Engineer OSU Computer Science PSU
    Location:
    Lake Oswego, OR

Share This Page