Notice Climate Change fear! Greatest hoax on the youth of the world in this Century!

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  1. Rastapopoulos

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    Easy for the man who lives on a boat to say.
     
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    Right. Well I must admit, you do surprise me dog.
    I think it was just about the time I met you that I attended a presentation about the earths Glaciers. The prediction was, all between 30s and 30N be gone in 25 to 30 years. It appears to be about on track, they will be gone on schedule. I suspect a few beyond the latitude constraint.

    This is still happening dispite the reductions in the US over the past dozen years.

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    None of the proposals by any of the want a be leaders will reverse this happening. None will lower the sea level. They are fear mongering while seeking control.
    I see nothing silly about calling it what it is.
     
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  4. MarAzul

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    We are all on one of these lists.
    Most of us attempt to stay there as long as possible.
     
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    I can't remember a liberal ever being this logical and correct.:cool2:
     
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    I believe we all could/should be better stewards of our planet. At this point in time, plastics pollution of our oceans seems to be of a more critical concern to me. I don't see near the outrage concerning that issue, however. I would venture to say that most (including myself) don't really give a whit when discarding that plastic bottle, utensil, packaging, container, fill-in-the-blank-here item. Sadly, we are choking our water ecosystem with this debris. I'm trying to be better.
     
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    It's all part of the equation. Do a search on the effect of plastic bottles and climate change.
     
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    The frackt of the matter is, you're probably correct.
     
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    I think any forward thinking society would look at how you keep a low carbon footprint for the long term view...not so much out of fear but out of energy mangagement...I was confined to the ship for two weeks and lost a paygrade in the Navy for refusing to throw plastic crap in the ocean on a garbage detail...aerosol cans...red lead paint buckets..etc...proudly took the punishment to stand up for my beliefs at the time...the weird thing is I was confined to the ship while we were at sea the whole two weeks...as if I'd go for a swim and be awol.
     
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    There is a long beach, about 12 miles of it, south of Bandon to the mouth of the Sixes River. Very isolated with almost no human traffic as the BLM closes it at most of it at the access points to protect the Snowy Plover nesting grounds.
    So this beach collects Pacific debris, mostly undisturbed except by a few adventurous souls, like my neighbor. Most of this stuff is fishing tackle, nets, floats, lines, bumpers and the like. Most of it comes from Asia or the western Pacific.
    A hell of a lot of it circles for years in the the big eddy, about 137W 38N or the Gulf of Alaska. But a little spins off every so often and the bulk of it collects on this beach, on the North side of Cape Blanco. The most westerly Cape on the US Pacific Coast.

    The wind howls ashore here, blowing in a clockwise cycle around the North Pacific high, squeezed into a venturi at this point between the High and Cape Blanco. If it gets past this point, it may well go around again.

    You can see the probables in the chart of the Pacific Currents.
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    why did you feel the need to start a thread essentially discussing the same thing you started a few months ago? Maybe the mods should merge them.

    http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/yes-we-have-climate-change-that-no-tax-will-change.345960/page-2
     
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    Interesting article. But it changes my view of the Charlatans waving their arms in feign fright, none. We do have climate change, and I think I see more, not that far off. Modern humans have not lived through this part of the cycle before, and if we expect to
    survive it, we best prep to adapt. The Charlatans are not in the game, we can not change the cycle, we can only adapt to the cycles. That indeed could mean far fewer of us are supportable with less resources available like farm land, and sea sources, even fresh water for farming.
     
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    I think the salient point is, the subject was the salient point in the news yesterday. Young adults, in fear generated by the Charlatans.
     
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    Ha!
    You need to be a committed to feel good about that one. I didn't get a chance at any options like that one. As a new Fire Controlman, it was standard custom to get a run in the scullery. Wonderful character building.
     
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    In resent history, we have been seeing historic levels of flooding on the Missouri river, usually in June.
    As some of you may know, June is also the the month of the highest normal water flows of the Columbia River. However it has been many years since we have seen actually flooding of the Columbia. Like the flood that wiped out VanPort on the evening of May 30 1948. Changing the character of N Portland forever.
    Whether it is the Missouri, or the Columbia, is all a matter of a few miles of where the Jet Stream is at that time of the year.

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    Some observations.
    We know the Largest of rivers have some what been reduced in flow into the Pacific. The largest flow of the Columbia occurred in 1894 at 1.2 million CF/second in June. It may have been near that again in 1948 (Vanport). But no where near this again.
    While the same can not be said for the Missouri River.
    While the Columbia is the largest River by a safe margin that flows into the Pacific, the other river that drained half the Continent into the Pacific, the Colorado does not now even reach the Pacific at all any longer.
    We also know that the largest of the rivers in Asia are also slowly being reduced in volume and Flood maximums. I think China has dammed everyone that flows from Asia through China. This helps control the floods but also help reduce the over all flow of the rivers, which many now have lost most of their Glaciers near the source.

    So Why then is the flow northward through the Bering strait continuing as strong as always, bringing heat to the Arctic. Well according to these researchers, it is the Yukon River, mouth in the Bering Sea and increased flow in the Umiack Pass from run offs in the Gulf of Alaska.

    "[8]Runoff onto the Bering shelf is ∼320 km3yr−1, of which ∼200 km3yr−1comes from the Yukon (gauged at Pilot Station); ∼30 km3yr−1from the Anadyr (gauged at Snezjnoje) [http://www.r-arcticnet.sr.unh.edu/]; ∼75 km3yr−1from the Kuskokwim, Nushagak, and Kvichak [http://nwis.waterdata.usgs.gov/ak/nwis/nwis]; and perhaps 10–20 km3yr−1from other or ungauged streams, including those joining the Anadyr downstream of Snezjnoje.

    [9]Additionally, a significant portion of the very large runoff into the Gulf of Alaska (GoA) enters onto the Bering shelf through Unimak Pass. Indeed,Weingartner et al.[2005b]argue that this source is a first‐order term in the Bering shelf freshwater balance. We take the annual transport through Unimak Pass as 13,000 km3yr−1[Stabeno et al., 2002], and if we combine their seasonal distribution of barotropic and baroclinic velocity with the measured seasonal salinity cycle (P. J. Stabeno, personal communication, 2006), we get a transport salinity of 31.7 (rounded down to maintain the ∼0.1 salinity difference between Unimak Pass and Bering Strait indicated by the full calculation)."

    This suggest more glaciers being consumed to keep the system flowing. Glaciers beyond the 30 30 latitudes to be sure. It can not last. When the flows through the Bering Strait begin to slow, I think we will have reached a toggle point. Events will happen very quickly.
     
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    Hmm...they do rhyme.
     
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    Public schools should just be shut down entirely before they start teaching their child-bots to slaughter us all in our sleep.

    They teach nothing factual, nothing of value, nothing other than subservience, obedience, and sloth.
     
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