Politics Impeaching Trump Would Let American People Off The Hook

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  1. Chris Craig

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  2. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Well, I suppose it does matter who controls the Senate. It's the only thing that kept Clinton from being booted. Like I said, though, the dems have been doing all they can to impeach Trump since day-zero. Absolutely none of this is surprising.
     
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    well, regarding Clinton, we certainly know that lying about a blow job is definitely as bad as asking a foreign country for help in digging up dirt on a political opponent, right? And no, they haven't been trying to impeach trump since day one, but don't let the facts get in the way. :blink:
     
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    Well, the lying about it was secondary. The fact that he even engaged in that sort of activity in the oval office in the first place is absolutely disgraceful. Oh, and I look at what Biden was carrying on with Ukraine "while" he was VP a bit more damaging than Trump digging up dirt on it.
     
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    and what did Biden do in Ukraine that was unlawful? Yes, getting a blow job is much worse than lying to the American people over and over again. How many indictments have come from this administration so far? How many from the Obama administration?
     
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    What exactly did Biden (or his son) do with Ukraine?
     
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    Not sure why it matters where two adults decide to do their thing... Look I'm married would never cheat on my wife, were pretty conservative in the "sex" department (though the kid count may make that look incorrect lol), but I don't get this line of reasoning. Ah man, where they did it was the real problem, I think unless it's pedophilia, or sex-trafficking were just gonna have to accept that these people have personal lives and this stuff really doesn't matter. It would appear that adults like engaging in sex (alot) and while were free to make personal choices as to the morality of certain things, it's also not really our place to push that morality onto others. May matter to their spouses, and loved ones but does it affect their jobs as "presidents, congressmen/women, etc" it's doubtful.

    Also really hard to excuse Trumps conduct and go back to good ol' Bill...
     
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    They do seem to have a weird way of rationalizing stuff.

    Look, we all have sex, I'm willing to bet most of us have had sex outside of marriage...but I'm more willing to bet that most of us haven't conspired with a foreign government to target a political enemy.
     
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    No, you're mixing impeachment with conviction of one or more articles of impeachment together. One is the responsibility of the House and the other is the responsibility of the Senate.
     
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    As far as my wife goes, I've never had sex outside of marriage and I hope to keep it that way. No, no, I will not have sex with another woman. I meant that I hope to keep her knowledge of my possible past sexual escapades unknown to my wife. Being a lay person on the law but knowledgeable enough to know where trouble lies, note how I used the term 'possible'.
     
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    He's fired scores of Republicans that have since become his detractors...it's not all dems....I'm an independent voter ...one of many..haven't met one who trusts him yet. Need to stop the two party labeling and see it as Americans opinions on Trump...I'd vote for almost any Republican candidate over him providing they were honest and willing to work for everyone. Swamp draining to me means ending the partisan divorce court we've been saddled with for my entire life. Trump has blatantly refused to cooperate with our intelligence agencies...he'd rather cooperate with foreign dictators, sultans or monarchs... The dems attacking and fake news attacking is all he's got...then he slanders John McCain, Mit Romney, Sloppy Steve Bannon, Rex Tillerman...and dozens of other GOP regulars.....Mueller was a fucking lifelong republican for christs sake....see this president for what he is.....only interested in himself. You agree with the guy or get tagged dumb as a rock eh? Mad dog Mattis….John Hawk Bolton...he's really pissed off a lot of people who are well informed as to the flaws of his lack of leadership.
     
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    Any "christian" who backs Trump can fuck the right off.
     
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    At this point, Trump has not been impeached, and what happened (or not) with Biden and/or his son is still under investigation, as well. Pardon for bringing Clinton into the discussion, but he actually has been through the process and probably got off easy....although, he was disbarred, but that's a different story.

    Anyway, sure, the Bidens may skate, and if it really is proven that Trump's call was strictly politically motivated to eliminate ol' Joe as a 2020 political rival, then, yeah, I'm OK with Pence as Prez. Still yet to be proven, though.
     
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    That's why it's called a process and inquiry. Hell, they just started the inquiry a week ago and it's moving at a rapid pace and trump just keeps feeding them more evidence. Him and rudy are quite the sideshow that doesn't know how to keep their mouths shut as they think they can lie their way out of anything. How do you feel about the stonewalling the trump administration has been doing. trump claims he is the most transparent president EVER. Are you buying that?

    By the way, who's investigating Biden? the Chinese or Ukraine? When will it be wrapped up as apparently Volker testified there was nothing there.
     
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    The problem that you have now is that Pence is in it up to his eyeballs as well. And I imagine you are not ok with Pelosi as Prez?

    I'm thinking it might end this way: a negotiated solution with McConnell, wherein Pence resigns, Trump appoints someone acceptable to McConnell as VP, then the Senate votes to remove Trump if he doesn't resign. And probably the new President pardons everyone in sight.

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    Monica Lewinski and cigar gate are a bit different from our prez asking foreign countries to investigate his opposition in an election year....one is attempting to use foreign intel ops to discredit his competition and insulting American intelligence professionals.., the other is just a blowjob. Clinton didn't call a guy with Schiff's job a traitor or call George Bush Sr a traitor.
     
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    I think Trump will use his get out of trouble free pass and resign so he can start his new version of the Bill O'Reilly show. Trump would rather quit than be fired.
     
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    Yes, that's true, but will his ego prevent him from accepting that they'd actually fire him?

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    Yep thats exactly whats going to happen. Isn't that basically what Ford did for Nixon?

    Also Mitch is already claiming to block impeachment. He is worse than Trump by far, mostly because he is more competent.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/03/politics/mitch-mcconnell-impeachment/index.html
     

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