Poll: did we get better?

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Rastapopoulos, Oct 13, 2019.

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What has the Summer roster overhaul done to the Blazers?

  1. Better than last regular season

    42.0%
  2. Worse than last regular season

    20.0%
  3. About the same but other teams have improved past us

    22.0%
  4. We'll have about the same regular season record

    16.0%
  1. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Now the smoke has settled a little, I'd like to see the general consensus on whether or not our big roster turnover improved the team. The impression I'm getting is that Blazer fans are much more enthusiastic about it than NBA media in general. Probably the key issue is the view of Whiteside: the world at large tends to share the Heat's negative view of him, whereas Blazers fans think he'll be like he was in his best year.

    Anyway, vote please: note that I'm just talking about the regular season, because matchups affect the postseason disproportionately.
     
  2. julius

    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Need an option for "Better, but will take a while to show it"
     
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    all I have to base this on right now is 3 preseason games. Blazers look worse, mainly because their defense so far has been a disaster and Whiteside has been pedestrian.

    this question would be better asked after those first 20 games we've been talking about
     
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  4. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    The Blazers are better, they are just still acclimating.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    The smoke hasnt cleared yet IMO.
     
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    Exactly. We have a long ways to go before the dust has settled. There is no correlation between the preseason and the real season. We have looked horrible before and have turned it around. But yeah they have a lot of work to do with all these new players....and the early schedule will not be kind. Terry has a lot of work to do and I am not sure all of the line up experimenting is helpful this year. He needs to find one soon and let them get some chemistry quickly.
     
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    If we finish with 50 plus season, once again it would represent a really decent season considering how tough the WC is these days.
    Like spring board diving in the Olympics, scoring is based on a degree of difficulty and 50 plus win in the West is one difficult task.
     
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  8. Rastapopoulos

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    It's covered by "Better"
     
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    ...and your vast knowledge of basketball
     
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    I don't have a vast knowledge of anything unless it's on ways to injure myself when using power tools

    my limited knowledge suggests that the players Portland added aren't any better than the ones being replaced, but a whole bunch of people here keep saying the new players are better so I'm reserving a lot of my judgement. Just not reserving enough to keep quiet against the tide of optimism washing over the forum. Being a little contrary is kind of entertaining though, even if I end up wrong
     
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    Collins has a higher ceiling than Chief. Hood and Baze are better offensively than the guys they replaced. Whiteside is an upgrade on Leonard.

    All of that is negated if Nurk is out for an extended period. Does anyone honestly know when Nurk will be back? (and by "back", I mean at the level he played at last season) Without knowing that, I can't offer even a wild guess what our record will be.
     
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    BlayZa Misbehaving responsibly

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    im going with - who the fuck knows, its only pre season.
     
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    have no idea at this point.
     
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    I really thought we got better, but I think we have some problems that aren't going away any time soon. Preseason is what it is, but there are a few things that stood out to me.

    The most glaring is that Whiteside doesn't seem to have a game that we can use. He is playing like he is 6'9" with no hops. Doesn't seem to be making any impact on either end. Maybe it is a timing thing. I know the rep on him is a stat chaser who doesn't help you win, but so far he is a stat repeller who also doesn't seem to help you win. I expected at least a few oops and some big swats at this point and I'm not sure I have seen him play above the rim yet. This is concerning and I will predict that we end up trading him for a big contract (Love, etc.) as soon as allowed.

    I think the rest of the rotation will work itself out, but the 4/5 is going to be a problem for a while, unless Gasol saves us.
     
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    I kind of agree but I need more time to see how he responds to Dame & CJ's coaching.
    Ive always felt he could be a part of a package for another legit 4/5?
     
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    Better than last season. I believe in coach.
     
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    I think we succeeded last year by having a lot of interchangeable parts and rangy defenders (and a couple of years' continuity). We got a lot worse when Nurk went down but had favorable matchups in the playoffs, and play slowed down enough that Kanter's and Hood's scoring looked more important than Harkless's and Aminu's defense. I think our defense is going to be BAD and our offense is not going to be good enough to mask it. I think having one-position one-dimensional players (like Whiteside) is going to hurt us. I think Rodney Hood is NOT a SF. I think Whiteside is also going to fuck up our offense. I think we're going to suck, but Dame and CJ will go off enough to drag us to maybe 41-41.
     
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    Hey, us sucking won't be Stotts's fault. But he might be blamed for it.
     
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    Much better once they've collectively built some chemistry...and a defensive unit on a string...with 7 new players fighting for rotation spots..it's going to look clumsy early on. A few guys I think will be quick studies...Baze, Mario and Tolliver....Hassan will probably take some work with film and coaching staff to have the starting role look like a fit. Hopefully Pau helps out with that. I don't think Trent Jr is going to be as good as Jake Layman, but until Hood is back, he'll fill in.
     
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