No... But what realistic option do we have? Someone with a better grasp on that would have to chime in. He would be worth a couple of picks and ?? Besides what pick could we get that would produce more than him at this teams stage anyway. We are absolutely in win now mode! I think his fit with Collins would be fantastic.
Maybe something like Skal, Nas/Trent, and a couple picks. I’m sure Indiana will get better offers tho.
Sabonis is quite a bit better than Collins at this point and he has plenty of upside, just like Collins. He doesn't have much of a perimeter game, so it's debatable how suitable he is for PF but he's due for a huge raise in 8 months. I'd bet the Pacers are looking to do the same thing Portland did when they traded Plumlee for a player with 2 years left on his rookie deal
Collins better defender then sabonis and the way Zach been playing on offense this year I would say Sabonis over Zach might not be true.
Offensively he’s definitely better than Zach but defensively he can’t touch Collins imo If Zach has a year we expect him to have what Sabonis gets paid now might be what Zach value will be..
I can’t believe Pacers don’t want to pay Sabonis what he wants. I thought he looked really good and was still young enough to get even better. I wonder what the Pacers know
Collins is a better rim protector for sure, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's a better overall defender * Collins had a defensive rating of 110 which was only 0.5 points better than Portland's rating. Sabonis had a defensive rating of 104 which was 2.5 points better than Indiana's rating * Sabonis had a DRPM of 0.98. Zach had one of 0.93. Sabonis had a def box +/- of 2.2 while Zach was at 1.0 * defensive rebounding is a significant part of defense for a big and Sabonis had a defensive rebounding rate of 29.8% vs Zach at 16.5% and there are the advanced metrics from last season: PER: Zach 13.5....Sabonis 21.9 TS%: Zach .562....Sabonis .630 eFG: Zach .523....Sabonis .596 FT Rate: Zach .315....Sabonis .416 Total Reb Rate: Zach 12.7%....Sabonis 20.8% Assist Rate: Zach 7.1%....Sabonis 18.2% winshares/48: Zach .104....Sabonis .197 box plus/minus: Zach 0.1....Sabonis 3.7 value over replacement: Zach 0.7....Sabonis 2.6 RPM: Zach -0.53....Sabonis 1.55 it's a slam dunk in favor of Sabonis now, I know I'll get a lot of push-back on those numbers, but I didn't make them up. It's the Blazer forum. But if this discussion was taking place in a Pacer forum, I doubt you'd find may people trying to argue that Zach was as good as Sabonis
Interesting.. I wouldn’t have thought that. Honestly I wouldn’t mind in trading Zach for Sabonis. Sabonis is really good. If we are trying to win now he would be a good choice
Nate likes players like Trent Jr...Wes Mathews types...I wouldn't lose Zach for Sabonis or Nas but I'd trade Trent Jr., Skal and a pick for him. I think Nas is going to be a real PF in the future
A Collins, Sabonis, Nurk 3 man big rotation for several years sounds amazing. Unfortunately I don't see a realistic trade to get him. Boston would be a perfect trade partner. They have the Memphis pick and plenty of matchable contracts. Plus their current big man depth is a huge weakness.
