Politics Supreme Court will allow Sandy Hook families to move forward in suit against gunmaker Remington

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  1. andalusian

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    Sounds like the argument for the people that called for this trial. They are obviously afraid - clearly they should be able to take this matter to court as it will help defend themselves to feel safe.
     
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    right, screw it, we dont have a problem with these guns. happens all over the planet. nevermind.
     
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    If you're shooting at people with your AR15 for protection your neighbors should also have the right to be safe I'd say...and their kids. If I needed that sort of protection, I'd consider moving or getting a restraining order. I'm a believer that these weapons are completely unnecessary for personal security. In the hands of the wrong people they are proving to be a public threat. We just don't fucking need them.
     
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    I've got no issue with them taking it to court, and seeing where that goes.
     
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    So do oppressive governments. Look around the globe right now. China, Chile, Venezuela, there are violent protests happening all around the world RIGHT NOW. So why is America different? I know many people are worried about Trump. I will never understand how the same people who rail about gun control are the same people who have been screaming about our government.
     
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    Therein lies your answer. Sometines it is better to move on, buddy.
     
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    You think the difference between Venezuala, China, etc., and America is our right to weapons like AR15s?
     
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    My daughters' Minnie Mouse blanket is completely un-necessary for her security, but I let carry it around anyways. I realize that's a terrible example and that she's probably not capable of harming others with a Blanket, but my point is that what you or I feel is necessary for someone's personal security, may not be true for someone else, or for what makes them feel comfortable and safe. It's part of what makes a "melting pot" society, with all these different views and agendas and all that so hard to manage. Were trying to "accommodate" everyone without stepping on other people, but because so many views are opposed to each other they will undoubtedly step on each other. I say I need 500 AR15's to feel safe. You say that's rediculous no one even needs one, if anyone has an AR15 I don't feel safe, so you take them all away. Then it turns out I live in fear my whole life for whatever reason, and that's fine because now you feel safe. Obviously this is made up, and obviously guns for a lot of people are not a "safety" thing, but at the end of the day we tend to only see our side of it and what makes us feel a certain way and degrade, or take other people's feeling's as unimportant in the whole process. Which was my point, to begin with, I don't think people who do live in fear for any reason should just be trivialized members of society.
     
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    We should hang out and talk some Blazers and Packers sometime soon!
     
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    since we are using ridiculous examples (like her blankie), what if I only felt safe if i could carry around a bomb? that is what makes me feel safe. so there.
     
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    also, her blanket cant harm anyone, so there is that one factor that maybe comes into play.
     
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    That's precisely the point. Which person or persons feelings are more important, cause inevitably someone is having their "feelings" trampled on. Just cause you carry a Bomb around doesn't mean you want to use it to harm people just cause'.
     
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    Yeah. That would be cool. I enjoy our conversations.
     
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    that was the point? ok... however, we have examples of people using these weapons for things other than defense. like schools getting shot up, and churches and walmart. people absolutely use these things to harm people 'just cause'. they get stolen. people lose their minds. they arent necessary unless in war. if you only feel safe with them, you either have a mental problem (and shoudlnt have one) or have a much larger issue and should probably call the FBI.
     
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    I shall send you a PM when I get off work tonight and maybe OB too cause I haven't seen him in a while either.
     
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    Ok. Looking forward to reading it.
     
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    I think you're confusing the issue.....you can have a weapon for personal protection in your home right now...the issue is gun "control" not gun confiscation or the rise of martial law and a police state. I have the right as a parent, grandparent and citizen to speak out against the sales of the AR 15 or anything that has proven to threaten children in public education, church, shopping malls, movie theaters...etc...one day I hope nobody needs any weapons at all but in the present...we can address this issue as a "melting pot" of concerned citizens. Tobacco companies have lost law suits for deaths caused by their products..laws went into effect that did decrease usage. No reason a gun company shouldn't be sued for selling a product that kills as well. That's my point. Americans won't give up their guns but they could limit the damage a gun could cause in public. I look at this as a safety issue as a country...not a political one. Anyone with thin enough skin to be offended by a gun control argument probably shouldn't be having a gun control argument in my view.
     
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    I think the first step towards an oppressive regime is disarming the public. So yes, an armed American public is a massive deterrent to any kind of government takeover.
     
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    so the politicians who are anti gun, Democrats, if they have their way, this group of liberals is going to put together a government takeover and start oppressing the citizens of the United States? I think you have it backwards. If anyone wants to ignore rights and laws and do whatever the fuck they want, its people like Trump, and fortunately for you, they love guns. So it makes no sense whatsoever.
     
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    The first step in an oppressive regime is stifling the media and eliminating freedom of speech..govt takeovers throughout history are usually military coups...where they oust the leadership and replace it...not armed citizens but the army itself.
     

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