What about Yi and Bargnani

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    A lot of guys are talking about Yi Jianlian's NBA comparison,we've seen KG,PG16,Darco Milicic.But I really think Andrea Bargnani has something to with our Chinese big man.Let us make some thing out:Body type:Both Yi and Andrea have good body type,long arms,strong thigns(both6-11,around 230 lbs),need a lot of upper body development.Gift talent:Both have very quick step for big men,run the floor well,very soft shooting touch,Andrea has a better feel for the offence while Yi plays with great energy and better explosion.Offence:Both versatile big shooter,with a combination of Size,shooting touch and rhythm.Relatively speaking,Bargnani does very well in top of the key as well as the wing,with a nice step and quick adjustment to make the shot,he is a nice guy with ball,who can penetrate,sometimes make a turnaround.Yi is a better off-ball player,for he has more international match experience.He can make the screen and be a spot-shooter,which will always kill his opponents,this strategy is common in Guangdong,maybe the best Team in China professional league,,and also in Chinese National Team.Yi has long arms and good jumping ability,it makes him hard to be bothered.Yi does not do very well while meeting the double-team and he is not a great dribbler,but when he is posting up,he usually becomes a tough guy,especially got a bit fire.In a word,Bargnani is more like a shooter than a post player.while Yi,I think ,he could do something more in the paint.Defense:Both good shot block with different tips.Yi depends on his leaping ability more while Bargnani uses his judgement a lot.Yi is a better defender in a team defence,he can help his teammates very well but sometimes has trouble fouling.Yi is also a good stopper,he can also make a steal in a sudden,then,dunk it home!Bargnani seems to lack enthuiasms in Defense,but he has a really sense of the ball moving,so he can often get someone off the dribble.They can develop their D to A new Level!Teamplay:Players from China and Europe are usually playing a good teamwork.Therefore,Yi and Bargnani are good team player,they both need a better understanding of the game.History:They played together in 2004 Nike Hoop Summit in Internatinal team as teammates against USA team leading by Josh Smith,Al Jefferson and Aldridge.Yi was a 5 at starting line-up while Andrea was a back-up 4.I hope both young guys can play very great game,Yi,just be yourself,Jiangsu is watching,Guangdong is watching,China's gotta be watching,Go China!
     
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    They do seem to be similar players judging by the scouting reports on Yi, but I haven't been able to see Yi play yet.Have you seen any of Bargnani's NBA games?
     
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    I think that's a great possibility It's just Bargnani's game isn't established yet, so comparisons are usually made with players who we can identify their games with.I think it's fair to say they could be similar type talents in 2-3 years though, personally I think Yi will be the better player though.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mobruler @ Jun 30 2007, 12:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They do seem to be similar players judging by the scouting reports on Yi, but I haven't been able to see Yi play yet.Have you seen any of Bargnani's NBA games?</div>Well last season when in China,I didnt see many Raptors game,honestly,there were not many Raps game on TV,but I am interested in this guy because I like Big man who can shoot like Dirk ,Kukoc. I have seen some of his videos in Italy and NBA,hes a guy with great talent,Yup
     
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    I think Bargnani will be a better player. He's a big man and can shoot. Very rare. He's getting good at attacking the rim now. If he improves on his rebounding and defending, he'll be a great overall player in the future. I don't really know much about Yi. Looking forward to seeing him play.
     
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    Good post man, I agree with the comparison from Yi's scouting reports.
     
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    You would probably like alot of our NBA players then. We have a few great bigmen who can shoot pretty well. Rasheed Wallace on Detroit and Kevin Garnett on Minnesota to name a couple. Even Kevin Durant who was drafted #2 in the draft is a power forward who can shoot very well.Wang Zhi Zhi and Yi both are/were very good shooters. I've always wondered why Yao never established his outside game since it seems to be a big part of Chinese basketball.
     
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    Bargnani shoots like a SF a little more with more moves to the basket,Yi is a good PF shooter who can also do a strong finish above the rim!lolwhat u guys think about
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mobruler @ Jun 30 2007, 12:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You would probably like alot of our NBA players then. We have a few great bigmen who can shoot pretty well. Rasheed Wallace on Detroit and Kevin Garnett on Minnesota to name a couple. Even Kevin Durant who was drafted #2 in the draft is a power forward who can shoot very well.Wang Zhi Zhi and Yi both are/were very good shooters. I've always wondered why Yao never established his outside game since it seems to be a big part of Chinese basketball.</div>When Yao Ming was in CBA,hes a good shooter,he can hot mid-range also down 3,even in a fast break.In his 1st yr in NBA,Rudy's flexible offensive stratedy allowed Yao to hit more jumpshot,but when Van Gundy takes over,he begins to make Yao a pure back-to basket player,so we see more lay-ups,hooks,and body contact.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (_Raptors_ @ Jun 29 2007, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Bargnani will be a better player. He's a big man and can shoot. Very rare. He's getting good at attacking the rim now. If he improves on his rebounding and defending, he'll be a great overall player in the future. I don't really know much about Yi. Looking forward to seeing him play.</div>You pretty much just described Yi head on when you desricbed Bargnani. They are both very similar. Yi is a good shooter as well, and can run the floor and is very athletic and quick. His offensive skills are there while his defense seems to be lacking. That is why I don't see why the Bucks picked them. They have one of the best offense in the league, but one of the worst defenses.
     
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    I have said this before.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrizzFanTaylor @ Jun 30 2007, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You pretty much just described Yi head on when you desricbed Bargnani. That's why they are both very similar. Yi is a good shooter as well, and can run the floor and is very athletic and quick. His offensive skills are there while his defense seems to be lacking. That is why I don't see why the Bucks picked them. They have one of the best offense in the league, but one of the worst defenses.</div>Ruben Patterson and Brian Skinner are the D-players
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (群雄逐鹿 @ Jun 29 2007, 11:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ruben Patterson and Brian Skinner are the D-players</div>Well, they need some more, because the Bucks are statistically one of the worst defensive teams in the NBA. Both Brewer and Noah, two of the top defensive players in college last season were avaliable, and the Bucks should have taken one of them.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrizzFanTaylor @ Jun 30 2007, 12:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, they need some more, because the Bucks are statistically one of the worst defensive teams in the NBA. Both Brewer and Noah, two of the top defensive players in college last season were avaliable, and the Bucks should have taken them.</div>Maybe some guys like Shane Battier and George Lynch,OR Josh Howard,players with defensive skills and awareness,but also good feeling for OffenceRight<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrizzFanTaylor @ Jun 30 2007, 12:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, they need some more, because the Bucks are statistically one of the worst defensive teams in the NBA. Both Brewer and Noah, two of the top defensive players in college last season were avaliable, and the Bucks should have taken them.</div>Maybe some guys like Shane Battier and George Lynch,OR Josh Howard,players with defensive skills and awareness,but also good feeling for OffenceRight
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (群雄逐鹿 @ Jun 29 2007, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Maybe some guys like Shane Battier and George Lynch,OR Josh Howard,players with defensive skills and awareness,but also good feeling for OffenceRight</div>None of those guys are avaliable, and they really don't need any offensive players. They have one of the highest scoring offenses in the NBA. They need some defensive stoppers.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrizzFanTaylor @ Jun 30 2007, 12:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>None of those guys are avaliable, and they really don't need any offensive players. They have one of the highest scoring offenses in the NBA. They need some defensive stoppers.</div>They gotta trade Bobby Simmons for Gerald Wallace,or like Luol Deng,some underated men.Corey Margette is the guy,but he's got an injury on his knee,Richard Jefferson is also the same,they really need good stoppers on 1 and 3,with Ruben baking up for Michael on 2.HUH??
     
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    I also am come from China's friendsI'm not Yi fan ,but I like Yi . Yi very diligently , I believed he can do is better
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (群雄逐鹿 @ Jun 30 2007, 12:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They gotta trade Bobby Simmons for Gerald Wallace,or like Luol Deng,some underated men.
    Corey Margette is the guy,but he's got an injury on his knee,Richard Jefferson is also the same,they really need good stoppers on 1 and 3,with Ruben baking up for Michael on 2.HUH??</div>
    Bobby Simmons for Gerald Wallace or Luol Deng? [​IMG]

    Neither of those players are underrated, both are very talented players. Luol Deng is a player the Bulls will never give up and Gerald Wallace is a free agent now. Richard Jefferson and Corey Maggete aren't exactly a guy you go for to greatly improve your defense.

    You can only get very little for Bobby Simmons. If the Bucks want to improve defensively it will require more than one deal.
     
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    I agree with the comparison from Yi's scouting reports
     
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