What Makes You A Basketball Expert

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  1. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Got called out by some random guy on here in a thread earlier and it got me to thinking.
    He claimed he was “Sure he knew more about the game than me.”
    So I was wondering how do you measure basketball IQ?
    Does a kid who’s dad was a coach growing up know more than a talk show host? Does a beat reporter know more than somebody who grew up playing in the parks everyday and then went home and watched games recorded on the VCR? Does a PR guy who works for an NBA team know more than somebody who played in high school? With so many self appointed hoop experts on here, I’d love to see how guys in here acquired their knowledge.
     
  2. TorturedBlazerFan

    TorturedBlazerFan Well-Known Member

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    Never claim to be an expert on Basketball. I've loved the game for about as long as I remember. I played all my life. I wanted to coach since I was in HS, played in HS. I thought I was really good in college (I wasn't). I don't know. I love the X's and O's of basketball. Do I think I "know" more than Stotts or an NBA player? no. I do know enough to point out when a play was good or bad though. I've spent my hours watching tape just like they do. Your parents don't really matter when it comes to your knowledge though. My dad is considered a great businessman by most of his colleagues (and he is really smart), but I know essentially nothing about that stuff.
     
  3. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    Just love the game. I have since I was a kid. I’ve watched a ton of NBA basketball, but I’ve never claimed to be anything more than a fan. I know a lot of guys on here have played and coached. I respect their opinions, but take them with a grain of salt. I pretty much start from the viewpoint that Stotts and his crew have way more basketball knowledge than anyone here, so I am slow to call for changes.

    Mrs. HCP says she loves me anyway.
     
  4. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I'm fucking dumb.
     
  5. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

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    I'm an expert in my own mind for damn sure!
     
  6. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    I think it’s due to my immense intellectual capacity.
     
  7. Wizard Mentor

    Wizard Mentor Wizard Mentor

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    What makes an expert?
    1) You need to know something about competition, sports, and basketball in particular.

    2) You need to know something about the salary cap.
    This is huge, and why it's hard to listen to most "fans." They may have a lot of knowledge about basketball, but their "trade ideas" are ridiculous.

    3) You need some sort of critical thinking to go with some basic understanding of logical fallacies.

    4) You need to know when to defer to the judgment of others.
    What's great about s2 is that we have a ref expert, international scouting expert, salary cap experts, tech experts... We have members who have great insights. We have members who'll spend too much time (imho) tracking down relevant stats and other info.

    5) You need to be willing to change your mind.
    You need to be willing to admit your mistakes, and move on.

    6) You need to have a little fun.
    It doesn't matter how much of an expert one is, if they are an asshole, period.

    @HCP is really good with 1) and 6), but not great at all of the others. This may be why he was "called out". OTOH, sometimes s2ers are "aggressive", and sometimes s2ers "don't get" his humor.
     
  8. TorturedBlazerFan

    TorturedBlazerFan Well-Known Member

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    I agree with quite a bit of this post. Some minor things but nothing worth pointing out. Good post. :cheers:

    Oh and honestly I think my weakest part is the CBA, and all the different Cap rules, I usually differ to @hoopsjock or a few others like @Scalma who knows that stuff better than I do.
     
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    Blazers Roy Well-Known Member

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    A few days ago, a user who goes by the name "B-Roy" taught me about the sorcery of an ancient magical formula called "True shooting percentage" and now i am a basketball Expert.
     
  10. theprunetang

    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    I'm a stable genius when it comes to basketball.

    Just kidding. I love the game, but always sucked at it. I know a bit, but also don't know everything.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    It's hard to measure who has more knowledge than someone else but there are definitely posters who prove with their posts that they aren't very knowledgeable.

    As for you specifically @THE HCP you mostly post jokes or Twitter/Instagram type stuff and rarely post basketball analysis or breakdowns as to what is going right/wrong in certain situations. That's not to say you are or aren't knowledgeable but I can see why someone would question your actual knowledge based on not seeing it here.
     
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    You're an expert if you predicted Portland getting over 23 wins the season after Portland lost 4 starters in FA.
    If you predicted 23 or less, you're far from an expert.


    idk whats even going on but looks like a bait thread to me.
     
  14. Cugel

    Cugel The epitome of mediocrity

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    I know more than a casual fan and that's because I read a lot. Bbiq? I have would test low compared to stotts fwiw
     
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    I’m sure my basketball IQ is lower than I’d like to admit considering how much I love this team and how many games I’ve watched. Probably a reason why I don’t post as much or get into arguments with people about basketball.

    I think most of the arguments I’ve had throughout the years has been about people not being nice to one another. I’m a teacher, so go figure.
     
  16. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    I think most that post here, including myself, fall under the category of super fans vs basketball experts.
     
  17. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    I don’t post basketball analysis here because I’m not getting paid for it. If S2 were to pay me say $1.000 for a 1,000 word essay I might consider it.
     
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  18. TorturedBlazerFan

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    You’re cheap.
     
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    I coached high school juniors and seniors in a rec league for two years. Both years we won the championship. We only had a few different plays on offense but our calling card was our defense. 1-3-1 trap was particularly successful and I made them play really good help defense. I'm definitely no expert on anything basketball related though. I don't think many people are, to be honest.
     
  20. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Well I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night...(No I didn't)
     

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