Politics Public Impeachment Hearings

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  1. Hobbesarable

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    As an independent I have felt like that for quite some time.
     
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    ^^^ Ditto.
     
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    Yep.
    And Nixon deserved to be impeached. Probably why he quit.
    Clinton did some despicable shit but impeachment was way over the top and harmful to the nation.
     
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    But Trump has done nothing wrong?...please.

    And evidently the country survived the Clinton fiasco.
     
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    Me too...
     
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    Always find it interesting how many independents there are out there
     
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    Im not so sure we did, doesnt it seem like the partisan “impeachment” and all of the nonsense revolving around that as a key moment in the fracturing of the country. I should rephrase it, the country didnt crumble away and die, but what came next, Bush and Gore and that fiasco and its just been on a downhill slope since.
     
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    Because there are still Real Americans, intelligent enough to have read and understood the Constitution, and to know how adherence to it is essential to the survival of America as a free country of free citizens.

    Your obvious willingness to remove a President by any means possible, lawful or unlawful, is the definition of treason.
     
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    I think this could actually be a really interesting conversation.
     
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    Seriously, where do you come up with this BS?

    Still waiting for coherent definition of what what you think a "real American" is.

    And please, no copying and pasting.
     
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    But that had little if anything to do with Clinton. This country has been on a downhill slope well before then.
     
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    Sometimes, you gotta do things because they are right and not because they are popular.
    These results are different than Gallup. Gallup has those supporting impeachment with a nearly 3% lead over those against impeachment.
    I should also add that this is a case of right vs. wrong more than popularity.
     
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    OMG, this means that Trump will be re-elected by a large margin, perhaps the largest margin ever, a lot of people are saying how large it will be.
     
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    So this isnt a story I should tell on myself but I was .5 credits short graduating HS and had to make it up my 1st year of college. I had good grades and was in AP classes but I had a major project I needed to do for a US history class that was a requirement to graduate and I basically made my report that a Real American is pretty confused.
    They start a war against Britain because they wanted representation on imposed taxes that a majority of them werent paying. They had an amazingly written document (the Declaration of Independence) that states all people are equal and should be endowed with certain rights, but stripped those rights from Millions, through racism. The list goes on theres so many things throughout American history where as a country weve said one thing and done another, that the only way to define a True American in the sense of morality, emotions and the like (excluding where they happened to be born), that the only explanation seems to be describe a hypocrit. My teacher didnt like that report at all to say the least... My feelings have changed some since being 17, and Ive learned more, but I still think that the whole “Real American” thing is kind of nonsense.
     
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    ^^^ "AUTHOR !...AUTHOR !
     
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    I think maybe we need our own sub-forum. :blazerwookie:
     
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    really though, I hear “I’m an independent” 10x - no 100x more than i hear “Democrat” or “Republican”. I think mostly because people think it’s a way to be neutral, or to stay clear of an argument, or maybe it’s embarrassing to be affiliated with either nowadays. I’m not sure. Then when an election comes around, there is no Independent candidate worth a hill of beans. If there are so many Independents- shouldn’t that party become something?
     
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    This guy begs to differ:

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    ;)
     
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    It would help if the "independents" actually had a viable candidate.
     
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    Most independents end up voting for Dems or Reps depending on the candidate’s. I think its a way to say they’ll decide later.
    Whats interesting though is almost everyone I know is pretty hard one side or the other, so anecdotally this is interesting that your experience is much different than mine.
     

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