Honest question for Stotts supporters

Awesome post! This actually points out why you wouldn't want to use passes as a relevant stat. Plenty of passes in the NBA are uncontested passes outside the perimeter or are even encouraged by the defense to get the ball out of the hands of a good player to a lesser threat.

 

I don't have time to do this today but perhaps it would be more relevant to look at the Blazers record in correlation to assist numbers.

Record above their average assists per game.

Record below their average assists per game.

Record with 20 or more assists.

Record with 25 or more assists.

Record with 30 or more assists.

 

Thank you! It is very sad, but thank you. I would like to see Stotts have enough balls to just quit. He's got enough money already.

 

Your posts are almost always really strong, including this one. As you know, I don't put much weight in stats that have proven to have a low correlation, so I won't go deeper into that on this point. What I will ask you is: do you think the stats you listed are a primary cause of a coach? Meaning if you look at the long term track record of a bunch of coaches, those stats would be fairly consistent? Or do you think they would change as their rosters/talent levels change?

 

Would be somewhat interesting for sure. Would we only be looking at one season or multiple seasons?

My general assumption would be on nights where shots are going in, assists would go up. I'd be much more interested in how many shot attempts would have been given an assist had it gone in.

 

That.

 

Yeah, there are stats for potential assists. Maybe that would be better or a good comparison.

 

Whoa.

 

Yes, mostly anecdotal or from player from which it was anectodal. Which is why it said those things might be tough to find stats for. However, those anecdotes are from people who have played the game at a high to fairly high to very high level along with one who has a coaching tree in the NBA. Their opinions/anecdotal sharings, carry a lot more weight to be honest.

 

Simple eyetest shows that we play better when ball is moving. And why not? If you move the ball you find more open shots. If you move the ball, you make other team run more. If you move the ball, it means you actually have some plays in your playbook.
How can people not see correlation between dead last in passing, losing the games and Stotts?
I mean, plan for game against Blazers? Three people on Lillard. That's it.

Also, some people here know, that we don't have any proper PG for like hundred years now.

And I was saying this years ago: This team roster is made by students playing NBA on PlayStation and coaching is from playstation as well: Got Damian and CJ and play them constant ISO. Who needs passes to open up spots? Who needs playbook. Two things: Shot Lillard from logo and add some CJ circus shots. Works for playstation.

 

That's a stupid thing to say.

 

I have defended The coaching staff throughout their tenure but numbers don’t lie. Maybe the number of passes doesn’t exactly show the complete picture (your two best players are in the backcourt, start with the ball and the team actually needs them to end with the ball...), but everyone knows ball movement is a critical part of basketball. Full stop. They need to fix that or they’ll be gone within the next year I have no doubt.

 

@Tince does seem to flaunt his cool-headedness. Pisses me off.

 

How about this correlation. In the last 30 years, list all the teams that won a title with a pair of undersized guards who didn't play much defense. Maybe add to that 2 undersized guards that don't play much defense that average as few of assists as Dame/CJ do. To be fair, Dame is at the highest point of his career but in total, their combined averages have not been very high. Add that to the size and lack of defense and I'm wondering what the success correlation is.

 

But there is no statistical correlation between an eye test and truth

 

It reads more like a story, but I enjoyed the read!

 

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Thanks @PtldPlatypus . We're all Blazer fans, we (mostly) all want the same outcome, and I personally grow when people challenge my ideas; so it's only right to praise all the people who think I'm crazy, but keep the discussion on a factual level. There are a bunch of great people on this board who disagree with me, but I come here for the discussion.