If they have a nuke soon, and I believe they will, it will be thanks to Trump who killed the deal on Iran's nukes.
Iran is boasting that they killed 80 Americans but there are no reports of casualties from the Americans. I say, let it go. They can boast all they want but if reality says they didn't kill anyone, let's end it right there and let them have their bravado.
I still think the best thing would just be to completely isolate the Middle East. No travel in or out. No commerce. Let them figure out their own shit. Tired of dealing with their extreme religious beliefs and their politics.
I'll preface this by saying I hate both sides of politics (Republicans and Democrats), ha ha, because I feel like both sides have gone too extreme. I completely understand that Trump started this by signing off on the assassination of the Iranian general but we're acting like no other president has done anything like that. I'm also not advocating war but what other president would get this much heat for responding to an actual attack on the U.S.? We're actually going to let them get away with shooting missles at our bases because "fuck Trump"? If we do nothing and they develop nukes or prepare for more attacks while we take them at their word wouldn't that open up the possibility of them starting the war on their terms? I don't really know what the right answer is here and am in no way supporting Trump (fuck that guy) but reading through comments on here it seems like people can't separate their hatred for him from what to actually do.
We should walk away, but Trump needs this war to try to gain some traction for the upcoming election. He falsely accused President Obama of trying to start a war with Iran so he could be reelected, instead he was just showing his plan. Trump saw how it worked for Bush and hopes it will work for him too.
Fortunately Iran's threat of "Hard revenge" amounted to minimal damage to the base and no loss of life. I guess their bark-to-bite ratio rivals even that of Trumps.
That was by design. By no loss of life (I would even think they warned the US to clear people ahead of the strike), they are less likely to have this escalate into war.
Of course. My point is that they talked a lot and used a lot of threatening rhetoric but ultimately didn't do anything.
Looks like Trump is not going to military retaliate. For once, I commend his decision to use sanctions instead of increase violence. we will see what happens next.
There is a stark contrast in these situations though for the most part. We weren’t necessarily battling those countries militaries (outside of the Hussein bout), we were/are fighting insurgents in guerrilla warfare ( al-Qaeda/Taliban). Iran is a little more cut and dry, as it is the country itself.
This is basically the equivalent of you being a kid and you throw a rock at the window, your dad spanks you hard, and you’re mad... so you eat his leftovers in the fridge. Yeah, you wanted to throw hands but you know you’re gonna lose that battle 10/10 times so you’re gonna do some small scale retaliation with no real blowback.
It's not so much what he did as it's more about not having a follow up plan and knowing what his actions created as far as repurcussions go. Just like his pulling troops out of Syria and then chaos for the Kurds who helped repel isis.
Agree..they've saved face, but I also think they realize its not worth losing their regime over. They purposely missed targets and fired up their propaganda machine. The religous Mullahs are all aboutn power and control over their people, they never want to lose that.
Lanny, they are fighting a holy war and any western country or Israel represents in their mind The Great Satan and Little Satan. Their end game with or without an agreement is our destruction and they know they will never be able to with a convention army, so nukes are their gift form their God Allah. The Iranian people/civilian mass, I don't feel feel this way, its all a way for their religious nuts to maintain power and suppression.
We've invaded the countries on either side of them. If China were to invade Mexico and Canada I'd be freaking the fuck out and calling them things like The Great Satan. We need to get the fuck out of the middle east and we need to stop arming the countries pretending to be our allies.
I’m with you, we need to leave the region as centuries of religious wars, never ends there. You are right about the countries be armed by us pretending, they cant be trusted as its all religious to them and in the end its Islam against the West. Like Qatar, I don't trust them whatsoever they prop up Iran financially and have the Shia brotherhood that spells death to Americans, and we have two base's there. If China invades Mexico, its not a religious war and they have already invaded BC, have you been to Vancouver lately?
I call horse apples and buffalo chips. Reports of the rockets actual landing sites are just being made puplic. Two of the rockets landed inside the green zone in Baghdad. One less than 100 yards from our embassy.
