Trade Idea Post and Discuss Trade Ideas for the 2019-20 Season

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  1. perkinsfor3

    perkinsfor3 Well-Known Member

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    I mentioned his name a few times:

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    perkinsfor3 Well-Known Member

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    How are Jordan Bell and Damion Jones looking right now?
     
  3. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    If a late first and a second rounder are your best examples of their misses they’re doing something right. Jones is a solid rotational big btw.
     
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    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    Is it possible Love could end up here if they sweeten the pot?

    Love certainly could help the Blazers, or Pacers, or Rockets. But that contract is hard to match up in a way that makes sense for Cleveland, which understandably is asking for a lot in return. “I don’t think Kevin has a lot of value,” a Western Conference executive said Monday. “The contract is obvious, but you know he is going to miss games with the toll on his body… I don’t see teams taking Kevin on (without) at least taking back a first-round draft pick or multiple seconds.”

    – via David Aldridge @ The Athletic
    Top Rumors, Trade, Kevin Love, Cleveland Cavaliers
     
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    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    Yeah that’s probably where the hold up is. Cavs obviously value him as their franchise guy, so attaching a first to get rid of him is probably not something they want to do. On the other hand, other teams don’t want that shitty contract. So I don’t know what kind of compromise it'll come to.
     
  6. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    What WC exec do you think that is? I'd say Morey.
     
  7. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully Olshey lol.
     
  8. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    It's out of left field, CLE giving up a pick to get rid of Love is ludicrous, even with that contract. Love isn't Blake Griffin-- dude is still playing at a relatively high level and is only 30.

    Seems like a Morey thing to say.
     
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    The compromise is that Love will stay in Cleveland for another year or two before being moved.

    Cavs are not financially motivated to move him... They have plenty of cap flexibility. They have no justification to add assets to move him now.... so they'll wait it out.

    It's kind of like the Blazers with the ET contract. You keep him on the team until you can move him in a nutural trade.
     
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    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    Pelinka my guess?
     
  11. Scalma

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    The difference between ET and Love is Love obviously wants out of there, and in those situations teams usually oblige sooner rather than later. I’d be surprised if Love was on the Cavs on opening night next season.
     
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    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    Whats happened to HCP?
     
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    PCmor7 Generational Poster

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    It's a real knotty problem when your franchise player is an albatross around your neck.
     
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    yeah, I "glossed" over it because, IMO, you are narrowing the parameters of an opportunity so much it's becoming kind of crazy. I get you are real invested in the notion that Portland HAS to trade Whiteside and/or Bazemore otherwise they are wasting the last chance to generate something positive from those 2016 contracts...and in turn that limits their future

    I just don't agree....there was never much of a chance they were going to salvage anything substantial from those 2016 contracts because they were bad contracts. No silk purses from those sow's ears. The way to salvage anything is to not take on any more garbage contracts. Learn the damn lesson and be smarter. Kevin Love has a bad contract; so does Blake Griffin. And with Otto Porter's foot issue, he may have a bad contract.

    and of course the biggest issue I see is that the Blazers very likely couldn't make any of these trades unless they attached assets or take on long-term salary, and probably both. I don't see any of these trade ideas that are both realistic and worth the cost
     
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    Barely. On one of the worst teams with one of the worst center rotations. Chriss is horrible dude.
     
  16. CupWizier

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    Porter has a bad contract with or without his foot injury. The injury just makes it even worse. He gives about the same production that Covington does at about twice the amount per year.
     
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    See there is the problem. You think I'm crazy for stating that a team trading a 24 year old star big would want to take on a 29 year old CJ for 4 more seasons? You can't just play the Olshey won't trade CJ card here because it doesn't make sense from Minnesota's POV.
     
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    no that's not it...I'm saying it's crazy because you're trying to justify Portland taking on another bad contract because Minnesota might look to trade KAT in the next 2 seasons; and they might be interested in Simons and the collection of mediocre 1sts Portland could offer, ALONG with that bad contract (rather than CJ); and that Portland's offer might be better than any other teams making offers for KAT.....well by the time you get to the end of that chugging train of mights, you're not left with anything close to realistic. In fact, somewhere in that string of mights, try this one: Portland trades CJ to a 3rd team that sends some assets to Minny including some salary and cap savings. Why is that not more realistic than the notion Minny would accept Portland's bad contract?

    here's the chain of events you seem to want:

    cap-space ---> Evan Turner ---> Kent Bazemore ---> high salary mediocre player ---> hope and prayer

    I'm suggesting the best option is to break that chain ASAP
     
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    So it seems like the Hood DPE doesn’t actually equal an extra roster spot. Blazers only have one spot open.
     
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    There are people laughing at it, but for the opposite reason though. Not everyone sees the potential Portland and its fans do.
     
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