Politics Why don't Republicans care?

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  1. MARIS61

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    Nothing of any substance at all. Empty, rigged versions of better bills that they obstructed in the House. Tons of meaningless resolutions and hypocrisy. Massive bloating of the government, all on taxes stolen from the middle class and our military and seniors.
    Cowardice and treason when faced with dangerous enemies. Endless wars,
    election riggings and spying on American Citizens.
    That's the Dem platform.
     
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    I say this every time you post. Huh.
     
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    Uhh, so was I...keep up.
     
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    Maris answered. Because Trump is their god. He is divine and perfect. We mere mortals can't judge him.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    We the voters have as much control of the government as we want.
     
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    It's not that Republicans don't care. It's often times that they are rightfully questioning about why the resonse is so different from president to president. The aid was actually approved under Obama's administration....and Ukraine never got it. But not one word of question, investigation or an eybrow raised when that didn't happen even though there are now starting to be details of how involved some of our politicians are in corruption over there. Ukraine has long been very corrupt and for better or worse, Trump has an issue with that.

    No one seemed to care when Biden (on video) said exactly what Trump is being accused of. He bragged about witholding the aid until the person looking into his son's corruption was fired. Not a single word! But when Trump then inquired of the incident and details around it, complete havoc. The supposed meeting required to get the aid....didn't occur. Everyone involved in the conversation said no pressure was exerted and no investigation ever took place...and yet Ukraine still got the mony....under Trump.

    Now we may never know every last detail of what happened under either administration but there are certain facts (due to Joe's bradgadocious) that we can at least objectively look at and ask, 'Why such a different respones?"
     
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    Joe Biden, ex-vp

    Trump, CURRENT POTUS.


    "Yuge" difference.
     
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    i wouldn't say willful ignorance as much as maybe apathetic ignorance?

    this is good and what im talking about.

    i haven't seen this spread about out there. Why not?
    I don't go out of my way for news from either side.

    these are the very things that dems should discuss more, instead of trump.
    But as long as these things are on the after burner of the louder voices of the dems, then the good gets left behind, unnoticed.

    these are the very things that should be pushed harder aNd put in my face. not hate trump impeachment opinions.

    If this is done I'm confident you will get him out of office. If the dems continue to want to be loud about trump instead of these things, then trump will win.
    It really isn't about whether we as republicans, feel bad about trump or embarrassed or anything. Its about the lack of a united focus on true agendas that i see.
    There are more than enough party jumpers/ independents out there to get The dems a win, but they wont be won over with a bunch of hate/impeach trump movements.
    They will be won over with better ideological/ economical agendas that are more thoroughly thought out aNd clearly explained to the public.


    dems need to stop putting trump out in the forefront of their thoughts aNd focus on winning over the fence riders.

    otherwise I've come to just roll my eyes at most of the political back and forth.
     
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    But what he was referring to is when he WAS VP. Just a little investigation would do wonders.
     
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    why? They were both in office when those things happened?

    or is this doing exactly what the op asked in the title?
     
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    So you see no difference in a sitting POTUS who is IMPEACHED vs an ex-vp?

    I've brought this up before but it often seems that Trump followers' only recourse in response to someone pointing out his mania, is to by default, divert to a different subject entirely or to reply with "well, what about _____".

    Trump is the one being tried in the House/Senate, not Biden, not Obama, not Clinton.
     
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    Not paying attention much? When Biden made that threat, he was VP and Ukraine did not get the aid during the Obama administration....which they did get under the Trump administration...with no investigation. Happy to have a factual conversation though.
     
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    Not paying attention much?

    "So you see no difference in a sitting POTUS who is IMPEACHED vs an ex-vp?

    I've brought this up before but it often seems that Trump followers' only recourse in response to someone pointing out his mania, is to by default, divert to a different subject entirely or to reply with "well, what about _____".

    Trump is the one being tried in the House/Senate, not Biden, not Obama, not Clinton."
     
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    When was Biden helping to get his crackhead Son a job in the Ukraine first become a big issue ?

    Answer; not until Trump made it one.
     
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    I can see a discussion about what really happened and when is going to be far to much to expect.
     
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    And more Fake News. Not a Trump follower. I did make a comment about comparisons but that has been completey ignored and the response right after my post was "Trump follower" and "mania". I would seriously be interested in a response to my original obersvation. If you want to answer by referring to me in completely inaccurate manners, that may speak volumes.
     
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    Obviously that is not true either or Joe wouldn't have gone on live TV to brag about him withholding aid until the investigator was fired for looking into the son. Actually, it was Hillary that first brought up Joe's son getting paid so much a long time ago. Given the circumstances, it seemed like she was trying to keep Biden from running at the same time she was.
     
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    Back up, sparky...When did I say you were "a Trump follower?...I didn't. My statement was a general observation about Trump followers attitudes on some things.

    Maybe you should learn the difference in "implying" and "inferring".
     
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    And I'll ask again, what does any of this have to do with Trump being impeached?

    FWIW, I'm by no means a Trump follower either. And if I were considering voting for Biden, and I'm not, I'd certainly want to know if he did something out of line which should/could influence my opinion of him. But for the umpteenth time, Biden is not POTUS, Trump is, and Biden is not on trial, Trump is.
     
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    So now I'm Sparky....or am I inferring/implying that incorrectly? I was looking for a legitimate response to what I posted. Can see that isn't going to happen in this case but it has become at least worth a laugh. Cheers.
     
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