Trade Bazemore being traded to SAC

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  1. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    I’ve always pretty much assumed that they DID have burner accounts here. It would explain so much......
     
  2. BLAZINGGIANTS

    BLAZINGGIANTS Well-Known Member

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    Cleveland Browns beg to differ.
     
  3. julius

    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Shit, now I want them to have burner accounts here! @SlyPokerDog , give us the list! we demand to know!
     
  4. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    Whoever wrote this article is wrong. You can't trade contracts like that anymore.

    It drives me crazy that people get paid to do this stuff for a living and don't understand what they're writing.
     
  5. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

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    These are exactly the things JC does. It's not a cover. It's fact. There are too many injuries. It probably would not have mattered a bunch as without the injuries they still would not have won a championship as constructed. Neil Olshey tried to make some moves and they didn't pan out.
    The one thing though that seems to get lost is without the injuries to Collins and Hood and Skal and now CJ and If they would have actually gotten Gasol for some time the Blazers quite possibly would have 4-5 maybe even 6 more wins at this point. With 6 more wins they are 24-20. How would you feel right now with that record and Nurk coming back? They would be sitting in a battle for the 6th spot and maybe even the 5th beings some of those wins would be against the Thunder, Rockets, and Mavs. Not only that but at this point of the season they have played more road games than any team in the league.
    Neil Olshey and also Stotts do not need a "Cover", but JC likes to make it sound seedy and wants to make the GM sound like he isn't genuine in his responses. He gets clicks that way.
     
  6. PCmor7

    PCmor7 Generational Poster

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    My take is that the front office is conceding the season. Baze never was a fit. Tolliver's career is winding down.

    They got what they could. Ariza's meh but probably a better fit here than Baze; his contract situation makes him more of an asset than his play. Gabriel's a lottery ticket who could be a beggar's Pascal Siakam but more likely will be playing somewhere overseas in a couple of years.

    Figure they'll get whatever they can for Hezonja. Wondering if they'll try to deal Hassan.

    Not a total loss of a trade, but seemed to be a cost-cutting measure because they don't see this team going anywhere this season.
     
  7. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

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    He has a disclaimer on it. He says "The team that trades for him in such a deal can then waive him before next season — we don’t know the exact non-guarantee deadline, but these things are often in June and typically negotiable with the player — to cut salary.

    So would that not be technically correct?
     
  8. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    Okay, as posted prior I am not a huge fan of this trade but how can anyone possibly take that they're giving up on the season from this move?

    If Ariza does anything it would be better than what Bazemore had done. Ariza also fits better because he won't try to play out of his skillset like Baze was doing.
     
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    Nope, still wrong. It used to be that way until two years ago when the NBA changed the rule to prevent this type of cap circumvention.
     
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    If that's directed at me, I'd say it's an educated hunch, because you are trading a starter and a rotation guy while you are theoretically still in the hunt for a playoff spot and getting back possibly one rotation guy whose career seems to be on its last legs. Oh, and he has an interesting salary. And it cut costs.

    All those are moves that a team that's looking to build for the future does.
     
  11. hoopsjock

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    So they cut cost and get a better fit than Baze but that means they are giving up?

    If they got a better fit wouldn't that mean they aren't giving up? While also saving money...
     
  12. hoopsjock

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    It wasn't because I hadn't read your post yet but then I did respond.
     
  13. Hoopguru

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    and who knows maybe Biggie can get a few boards each game.
     
  14. Neil O. Shyster

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    This might have been encouraging if we didn’t have a 5 year track record of Neil hyping up expiring contracts and then doing nothing with them.
     
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    We will get more from the 3 new guys than we were getting from Baze & AT, imo.
     
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    It's incorrect anyway.
     
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    Exactly the way i see it.
     
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    In a way, Bazemore was a great Blazer. It led us to Wenyen Gabriel GOD BLESS.
     
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    it's Dwight Jaynes, and sorry, but he's carrying water for Olshey again
     
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    Link?
    Not saying you are wrong at all. Just want to catch up on it? If he becomes guaranteed he is an expiring at 12 million+. I don't see how any rule can change that outside of making him "Untradeable"?
     

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