Trade Idea Post and Discuss Trade Ideas for the 2019-20 Season

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  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Different kinda players, no?

    When has ET ever shot 37.5% from three on 4 attempts a game?
     
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    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    Denver is most likely looking to dump Malik Beasley and Hernangomez as they are pending RFAs that aren’t in their rotation. I’d take either.
     
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    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    What’s the inference here, that Winslow is a good shooter? Because he’s not.
     
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    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    It'd probably cost too much for Beasley, I'd be happy to be wrong though!
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Serviceable and he's always been a good defender and can create offense. I think he's who we wanted ET to be. The only true knocks on him are his injury history and contracts.

    Still have him rather than Ariza at this stage in his career anyway. You guys really wouldn't do a straight swap of Ariza for Winslow if MIA wanted that contract off?
     
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    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    So what you're saying is that you want a player that has only been "good" for two years in his career when he became the defacto PG (how does this not sound like Turner?) to come to the Blazers where he won't ever be the primary ball handler and will go back to being a spot up shooter? Yes, I'd rather have Turner back. In fact I'd take Ariza right now over Winslow. The only possible way I'd make that trade is if some other team thought Winslow was good and wanted him as part of another trade.
     
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    No. Ariza is better and isn’t constantly injured.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    He's only been in the league for four years. Being good for two of the four while realizing a new role is a positive for most people. I think it's insane that you'd rather have ET or Ariza over a defensive small forward who put up 13/5/4 on 43/38 shooting splits just last season at age 22.

    Totally disagree with you on this.

    The injury history is really the only reasonable justification against him in mind.
     
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    I'd be ok with the Whiteside/Hezonja for Lee/Wright trade, even if that was all that Portland did before the deadline

    it would accomplish a few things: a big one would be to basically tank without blatantly tanking, because without Whiteside, Portland's rebounding and paint defense would suck..big time. Might as well try and maximize that draft pick when the 'opportunity' is there

    another thing would be to give Portland options next season. It would allow Portland to waive Ariza if they wanted, and still have an MLE-level contract as a trade asset. I'm skeptical the Blazers would carry both Ariza and Wright next season. That's over 22M in salary added to what is already guaranteed

    it would finally give Portland, and Stotts, a backup PG on the bench (which may be why Olshey wouldn't do it). And it would add another taller guard to their collection of short ones, and in this case, a guard who plays decent defense
     
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    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    I feel like you aren't considering fit. First of all, Winslow would be absolutely brutal in Stotts' offense. He wouldn't be allowed to handle the ball that much and would be relegated to being a spot up shooter. Yes, I'd much rather have Ariza than Winslow in that role. Winslow would look exactly like Bazemore did.
     
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    I don’t know about not being handle the ball, I mean the second unit is desperate for a ballhandler, but yeah, I don’t see him as much of an upgrade over Turner the last couple of years.
     
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    If we're going to trade Ariza to Miami it should be for Kelly Olynyk. His advanced stats are really good, he can shoot the 3, and is an above average defender. Then we could trade Whiteside without having to worry about finding a center replacement, like the Dallas trade.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Sacramento probably had their pick of Olynyk, Leonard, Johnson or Waiters, since all have contracts that are about the same as what Ariza is being paid. I doubt seconds were offered or else Ariza would probably be in Miami instead of Portland.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Whiteside is doing renovations on his place in Portland.....seems like he has good information that he's likely not being dealt. Things can always change, but that's what it seems like.
     
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    Just shared that same sentiment with my buddy ... maybe the plan all along was to get a big rotation of Nurk, Whiteside, and Collins long-term? *IF* Nurk and Hassan accept their roles, it would be a fantastic trio.
     
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    Because people don’t renovate their homes when they try to sell them?
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    The fact that he even bought a home here given the context of his status (expiring deal, fill in for a starter, likely to command more in FA than the Blazers will pay), is kind of telling.

    Or maybe he just really likes Oregon and wants to live here in the off-season even if he changes teams....lol.
     
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    If Whiteside stays Olshey better add some future pieces using one of his exceptions. Maybe that was the plan along. Dump money to add money.
     
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    Aren't he and Meyers just borrowing each other's houses? To me renovating a house means nothing.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    I didn't know that. That would make more sense.
     

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