Trade Idea Post and Discuss Trade Ideas for the 2019-20 Season

well, you really want Whiteside traded for something so might it be that 50/50 is some wishful thinking on your part?

if he's traded, I think it may have to be a 3 team deal so there are enough moving parts to bring back an MLE-level salary for next season plus an expiring. I doubt the Blazers will add a salary over 12-15M next year and even that might be high unless they are planning on waiving Ariza

usually it seems there is almost always a big name on the trading block before each deadline, and the dominoes don't fall until that major trade happens or it's 48-72 hours before the deadline. But I haven't heard any rumors of a desirable big name available. Love isn't desirable...pun intended. Drummond maybe

 

Just curious Scalma, did you add the names like hurt (Otto Porter Jr, Blake Griffin) etc or did Quick actually name those players in the parentheses?

 

he named them.

 

Or I just copied and pasted Quick.

 

I wonder why if we're looking for "long term solutions" for Whiteside why it would matter if a player is hurt right now? I mean, I get the injury risks with trading for someone hurt or with a bad history but theoretically someone like Porter Jr could be fine in a few weeks and next year.

 

I didn't understand that was all quotes from the article...sorry about that

 

could it be after Ezeli and Gasol, and what's happened this season, the Blazers are really gun-shy about targeting somebody with a mystery foot injury that's kept him out of 35 games and may keep him out of a lot more? Blazers have enough injured players without trading for another one. And Porter missed 26 games last season too, with a shoulder injury so it's not a one-time deal

 

But if they're going to change the trajectory don't they almost have to take a risk at some point and hope it works out? Because of those injuries some of those guys are available for basically nothing or at least for relatively cheap. If those guys were healthy they'd cost a bunch of assets to get. Unlike Love or Griffin, Porter would only be a risk for one more year.

 

Porter is available for cheap? I haven't heard that. Didn't quick also say the Blazers were holding on pretty tight to their draft pick? I doubt Portland could get Chicago to listen unless they dangled the pick and the protections were such the Bulls had a good chance of collecting

I agree Portland is going to have to take a major risk, sooner rather than later, in order to change their trajectory, but when was the last time Olshey actually took a significant risk? Maybe the last time was the Afflalo trade, and that was trading Will Barton as well as giving up a draft pick that saw Mailk Beasely, Caris Lavert, Pascal Siakam, and Malcolm Brogdon still on the board. That might make him a bit gunshy, and frankly, that was futzing around with the bench rotation, not the core. The risk Portland will have to take, IMO, is with the core.

 

Again, why do you keep going back to a 1st round pick for Porter? The Wizards let all the players they got for him walk this off season. He's pretty much been hurt since but now has a TON more value than expirings? Why does Chicago want to pay him $28.5 million next year?

And please don't give me the stats of Portis or Parker, if Washington valued either they would've at least attempted to keep them.

 

Well Wizards frontoffice wasn't actually good at its job. They even traded Oubre for Ariza with plans of keeping Ariza during offseason, but the new guy let all of those guys (Ariza, Portis, Parker) walk because they don't have any reason to be on a rebuilding team.

I don't say they ll aks for a first, but they won't give him up for an expiring that they don't intend to keep. They will get a real asset back. Ok we can say it's the Bulls we talk about so they ll fuck it up, but if you were them is there any reason to let Otto walk? Something big in 2020 FA? It's not that there is some great talent there for the taking. They can just keep Otto and if he plays well they trade him next February where he will have more value. Now he is at his lowest point.

 

Chicago is notoriously cheap as a franchise. Why would they want to pay Porter $28.5 million instead of just getting rid of him?

Chicago didn't give up much for him so it's not like they have to recoup some sort of value to justify trading him again.

He's given them nothing on the court, the team is a dumpster fire, and the owner is talking about finally breaking up GarPax.

I don't know, you guys could be right, I just don't get how he could have more value now than last year.

 

But we know Otto is a good player when healthy, he is a sure net positive on the court. Everyone watching the league should know that. This is why you want him too and I want to imagine a professional GM knows that as well. Wizards wanted to reduce salaries last year and they just dumped him and Oubre, both very good starters in this league both terrible trades from their end.

 

Sure, but that doesn't mean that the Bulls want to keep paying him that salary next year to find out though. It's not like they're going to contend next year most likely. I don't know what they're thinking. You might be right, maybe they think he's some star that demands some major compensation. I just find that hard to believe.

 

What I said is what i think it's reasonable to do. Of course I might be wrong as well and the Bulls front office that doesn't have any other competent SF thinks it's for the best to not give Otto another year. Who knows with those guys.

 

Would you rather do Whiteside to Boston for Heyward or Whiteside to the Spurs for DeRozan? Both work on the trade machine.

 

That's not even close, Hayward by a mile.

Neither one of those trades will be an option though.

 

That was my thought. We know Biggie's ceiling so why not see Patton's instead? No loss if the switch doesn't work out.

 

Well we are over the tax so any player brought in costs more than just signing them.