Politics IMPEACHMENT 2020: THE BIG SNOOZE

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  1. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

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    Republicans are currently clutching their pearls after Schiff cited a news story that a White House official allegedly said any Republican senator who votes against Trump will have his/her head on a pike. He lost me! He lost all the ground he gained and more! Outrage! Outrage!

    Because you know they were so moved they were ready to call witnesses and subpoena documents and maybe even vote to convict until Congressman Schiff cited a news story so now there can be no witnesses, no evidence, and Trump must be acquitted.

    And I have a bridge to sell you if you believe that.
     
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    I want witness's, but Adam Schiff was bloviating with that one.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Not clear what you mean by that. Schiff was discussing a news story on CBS. The 'head on a pike' quote from that report may have been factual, or not (as he mentioned), but the underlying implication - that GOP senators are afraid to step out of line because Trump would attack them - is quite obviously true. Trump has attacked every Republican that has crossed him.

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    Schiff lies = Impeachment.

    That's the total sum of evidence presented, and there is no allegation of any impeachable crime having been committed. We're done here.

    Demon Party self-humiliates in Grand spectacle of underestimating the intelligence of Real Americans. So many voters fleeing to more moderate options.

    Next up: The Biden/Kerry Trial :cheers:
     
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    I think him stating he doesn't know if it is true or not, while prosecuting a case is political bloviating. I bet he turned off the ones he should be trying to reach with that statement. It's no different than some of the crap that comes out of Trumps mouth. In a regular civil / criminal court there would have been an objection and the judge would have sustained. The whole impeachment process is 100% political.
    No way in hell any more are you going to get bipartisan support to impeach a president without the blue dress.
    We need more independents/libertarians in congress to bridge the gap the two parties have produced.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Of course he turned them off. Nobody likes to have it pointed out that they are ass-lickers. That was kind of the point, to call them out for being cowardly ass-lickers.

    Except that it's true.

    What would the objection have been?

    We need fewer ass-lickers in congress. Too bad we here don't have the opportunity to vote against any of them.

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    Then what your saying prosecutor regardless of party could get up in an impeachment trial and simply spew, well we hear that this happened but im not sure? Thats BS. And the objection and you know this would be, your honor this is second third hand hearsay with no hard evidence, and the judge would sustain.
    Its common since man, I'm amazed you go along with allowing any prosector to get up and talk about, well the networks are reporting?
    Frankly that goes for any side with any case.
     
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    Barr and the republicans say a sitting president can't be indicted. :biglaugh:
     
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    As usual, you don't know what you are talking about. You don't need a crime for an act to be impeachable.
     
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    Not so sure about that one hg.

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    Indictments coming when? Any day now?
     
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    The lack of a "blue dress" is the reason for article two of the Impeachment.
     
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    Can you ever impeach a President who refuses to present any documents or evidence proving his wrongdoing? Even Nixon and Clinton, under penalty of the court, had to present evidence showing they did wrong.
     
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    i agree with that.
    I just don't think its good for any prosecutor in any case, for shock sake to say "there is a network reporting something Im not sure is true, but Ill throw it out there anyway". That would never go over in any civil or criminal court anywhere in this land.
     
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    I understand that. Parties are so polarized now days (more than I can ever remember) it would be hard to impeach any president unless they had hard core evidence and some. Even with that, the senate didnt remove Clinton from office. It all comes down to politics and majority usually rules. If you had more representation of independents, libertarians they could at least even or improve the odds for a non partisan vote.
    They are a factor in General Elections and may be again this time around.
     
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    ^^^This.
     
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    Of course, in most court cases there isn't press reporting about how the defense has threatened the jury with retribution if they don't vote to acquit, and there aren't statements from members of the jury before the trial that they have no intention of being impartial. And members of the jury usually don't believe that they will lose their day jobs if they vote to acquit.

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    Well, you know, when Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama get indicted.....
     
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    The Senate didn't convict Clinton because they didn't feel that lying about sex was worthy enough to convict a President in an impeachment Senate trial. Maybe it was also because he was working on the issue with his wife and his clergy.
    Trump is a whole different matter. A whole lot worse and no extenuating circumstances at all. Clinton admitted his wrongdoing and apologized while you'll NEVER get Trump to apologize for anything. This sets Clinton up for possibly not making that mistake ever again while the Trump case sets him up for probably making a similar mistake again.
     

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