Trade Idea Post and Discuss Trade Ideas for the 2019-20 Season

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    They don't even need to have an exception (such as the example I gave).
     
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    CupWizier Well-Known Member

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    So you are saying we can trade Swanigan to Minnesota and don't have to take back a player or an exception that matches Swanigan's salary by CBA standards?
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    You don't "take back an exception". Exceptions are simply created when an unbalanced trade is made.

    In the example I gave, an exception would be created on our end by including Swanigan in the deal, but Minnesota would not need to have a previously-existing exception to accommodate his inclusion in the deal, because Whiteside/Swanigan combined would fit within 125% of their outgoing aggregation.
     
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    CupWizier Well-Known Member

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    But Swanigan can't be traded along with another player, he can only be traded on his own now and until the deadline.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    You have to compartmentalize each team's side of the "with another player" thing. The rule specifically states that his salary can't be aggregated with another player's salary for the purpose of matching an incoming salary amount. If the deal as constructed is such that we don't need his salary included in order to accommodate the incoming salaries, then we're all good. How it looks on Minnesota's end is completely irrelevant to the non-aggregation rule.
     
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    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    I've said numerous times previously that there would have to be a follow up trade. Heck Dallas got Cauley-Stein for a pick that will be in the mid to late 50's. You could ask Charlotte to throw in Hernangomez in the deal so we have a center. The money saved could go towards signing Faried for the rest of the season (or anyone else available). There might be some buyout players available. This is why I keep saying it takes some creativity.
     
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    I will admit that I don't pay much attention to the CBA these days but that's different from how I always understood it. I found this little snip it as well.

    If teams acquire a player in a trade, they are allowed to trade that player straight-up for another individual player immediately. However, if teams wish to package that player with another and make a trade, they must wait 60 days before doing so.
     
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    If we want to compete we also need some extra scoring and shooting off the bench. Burks would be all right, for a second rounder (do we even have any left?).
     
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    Random idea

    Atlanta In:Whiteside
    Atlanta Out: Len, Turner

    They've been targeting other Cs in rumors. Apparently to shift Collins to PF. They get a half season tryout of Whiteside and bird rights.

    Minnesota In: Turner, Len
    Minnesota Out: Dieng, Vonleh

    They shave a year off of Dieng's deal by taking on a little more salary this season.

    Portland In: Dieng, Vonleh
    Portland Out: Whiteside.

    Get a temporary C replacement in Dieng until Nurk and Skal are back. Also, have insurance for next season, as well as a big expiring next year to deal.
    Also gets us out of the tax.
     
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    No one should be considered untradable, but Nurk's value has got to be pretty low right now.
     
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    How many teams have a tall SG, and how much of it is really attributed to their size vs CJs? The size thing is overstated.
     
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    Would also give us an $11M TPE.
     
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    Been saying exactly this. Olshey sucks at finding hidden gems... They're littered across the league, but Olshey seems content with going for retreads (Stauskas, Hezonja) or washed up players (Tolliver, Gasol).
     
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    I’d trade CJ and a 1st for Jrue Holiday. Holiday, Ariza, Whiteside and Collins would make this an ELITE defensive team.
     
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    The size thing may be overstated in some cases where the guy is CJs size but a much better defender. The defense thing is not over-stated. I don't know why you wouldn't want a superior defender at shooting guard. Is defense over-stated?
     
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    If we’re looking at possible diamonds in the rough, how about Elie Okobo? Phoenix has Rubio and probably wouldn’t mind opening up more minutes for Ty Jerome. They also have another capable guard in Jevon Carter. Point is, Okobo could be had. Still only 22. His assist percentage would rank him second on Portland. He’s got length too so he can guard multiple positions. With Hezonja busting and Simons struggling, we could realllly use a guy that can run the second unit.
     
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    POR: RoCo, Dieng
    GSW: Whiteside, POR 1st
    MIN: Russell
     
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    lots of teams have taller SG's, but that isn't the entire problem. Portland only has one guard over 6'3, and the one they just traded away was 6'4

    I think Denver is about the only team that has a starting back court as small as Portland. Maybe Toronto. But I haven't looked lately

    there's Dame & CJ, and since it became their team they've led a parade of small guards...Tim Frazier, Brian Roberts, Shabazz Napier, Seth Curry, and Simons. If that was a string of true backup PG's it wouldn't be so bad, but other than Frazier, that's basically a list of dwarf SG's
     
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    Toronto is far smaller. Theyre 34-14.
    Charlotte, Washington, Sacramento, Utah, Denver, Cleveland, ... Clippers play Pat Bev and Lou together in crunch time and thats smaller. Might be misisng some.

    I rarely see CJ get abused for his "lack of height". Defense doesnt come down to a 1 to 2 inch difference between perimeter players.
     
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    GSW are not trading Russell for a mid first rounder, come on.
     
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