OT 2020 ROY--Ja or Zion?

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How will the rookie of the year race end up?

  1. Morant will be the most deserving, and will win

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    44.0%
  2. Zion will be most deserving, but Morant will win because Zion missed too many games

    8 vote(s)
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  3. Morant will be most deserving, but Zion will win because the NBA wants him to be a superstar

    5 vote(s)
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  4. Zion will be the most deserving, and will win.

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  1. TorturedBlazerFan

    TorturedBlazerFan Well-Known Member

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    Zion's also playing with, Jrue, Reddick, Favors, and Ingram. Morant's playing with like 1 vet in valencunas, and he's kind of a pass-first guy, JJJ is good but he's also young. I think Zion's being over-rated personally.
     
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    To me it's about playing enough games to qualify. 37 games (if he even plays that many is typical of a college season) so he doesn't go through the rookie NBA wall, i would think a player needs to play at least 60 games.
     
  3. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Zion runs away with it if he was healthy from the start. Probably unanimous... I’m not entirely sure but I do think JA will get the nod for the G/P difference.
     
  4. BonesJones

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    Exactly.
     
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    Pelicans won’t get 8 seed but they will finish ahead of Grizz and Zion will win ROY.
     
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    And in 2003, you wanted Melo over LeBron too? Zion is clearly better than any rookie since Blake Griffin, including Ja.
     
  7. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    What, you think the Suns or Kings are gonna pass 'em? Doubtful.
     
  8. TorturedBlazerFan

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    No one said anything about Melo vs Lebron, so that seems kind irrelevant.
     
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    It doesn't matter who the better player is or will become. It's only who had the better season. Playing less than half the games and not being able to make it through the grind of a season needs to be factored in, in my opinion.

    If Dame only played in January this year, should he be considered for MVP? Absolutely not.
     
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  10. PtldPlatypus

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    If a player only played half the games, but in those games had vastly superior numbers to the "next guy", and took his team from being 7 games back all the way to the #1 seed, then yeah, I'd give him the MVP.
     
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    Here's a pretty good article showing games played by previous ROY's. Patrick Ewing won ROY playing in 50 games which is the fewest games by a rookie to win it. Zion will likely play a little over 30 games at most.

    https://www.inquirer.com/philly/spo...iid_played_enough_to_win_rookie_of_year_.html
     
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    OK but I wouldn't bet on your opinion as history pretty much spells it out. :bgrin:
     
  14. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I'm well aware that what should happen and what will happen are often at odds.

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    Hypothetically speaking would you chose Lillard's rookie year over Zion's rookie year if he remains on the same pace and only plays 37 games to Lillards 82?
     
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    So in Zion's case their easy schedule only influences you predicting them to get the 8th seed not that Zion has played against weaker teams?
     
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    Tough to say. Probably, but it's close.
     
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    Another great video by J. Kyle Mann on Ja....

     
  19. Wade Garrett

    Wade Garrett Exactly right.

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    Too bad Wenyen Gabriel isn't a rookie.
    I'm certain he would get some votes from the S2 panel.
     
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