Politics Can Sanders beat Trump?

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  1. Rastapopoulos

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    Can't plan your life around stupid.
     
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    I think Melania faces that problem every day.
     
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    You might want to rethink that. I don't believe that there's a likely route to a Dem win in the Electoral College that doesn't include winning Florida.
     
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    Most people exclude Florida from "The South". It's its own separate entity, unrelated to the rest.
     
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    Apparently, most people haven't looked at a map. ;)
     
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    With the healthcare industry (predominantly pharmaceutical companies) donating $112 million to federal political candidates and 56% of the money going to Dem candidates, I think Bernie is going to find it a bit tougher to tackle this issue than he anticipates.

    https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?Ind=H
     
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    Ah capitalism, where healthcare is a business with such massive profits that the companies can buy politicians. Truly the best economic system humans could devise!
     
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    Then why dont people flock to Cuba or Venezuela for socialized medicine. Why do Canadians come here for special procedures or simply cannot wait for long delays to see the doc.
     
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    I didn't say it was. Sometimes reality sucks. Bernie has a wish list of the way he thinks things should be, but if he's elected he's going to find it much harder to convince Washington's career politicians than he is folks on the campaign trail.
     
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    LOL.

    Regardless of opportunity, no creation happens without incentive.

    Government taxation eliminates the incentive for them to succeed.

    Government handout/redistribution of wealth eliminates the necessity/desire to strive to succeed.
     
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    Have you forgotten about the electoral college? States are winner-take-all, it's worthless to have 'some support' in a state.

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    In the last few years Ive had cancer surgery and two knee replacements and couldn't be happier with my insurance/medicare. and the out of pocket it cost me. I was able to get right in doc of my choice, and be in control rather than the government dictating the approach and who I should see and when. Yep I pay for Medicare Advantage, have good insurance on my vehicles and house, and even pay for insurance on my new apple I phone 11, but not for long.
    Im all for having social medical coverage programs for those that need it and even don't mind contributing. Just don't make it a total government plan for all. I just don't want government run everything, that takes away my freedom of choice and what I want to spend my money on.
    A healthy competitive market place with consumer awareness better now than ever, companies wont last long if they cannot offer an solid product with great service ant a competitive price.

    Should the government tell Lanny he shouldn't purchase a top line Volvo that meets his needs, but require him to buy a smart car or motor electric motor scooter, no freaking way.
    Not everyone can afford a Lexus but as long as there are viable mid/low end markets with affordable products, that's great.
    One of my younger grandsons wanted a cell phone and was hoping to get the latest greatest like many of his 13 year old buds have, but he couldn't afford it so he went with a plan that offered a freebie phone and is happy. I told him if its, a priority to have the latest greatest save your money, then decide if its worth spending your savings on.
     
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    True, but he or whomever will need support from the regions. Ask Hillary.
    I'm just thinking a non socialist would have an easier time in those areas and more. I know I could be completely wrong but we will see.
     
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    Most people exclude Florida from normal human society. It's its own separate entity, unrelated to the rest.
     
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    Well said.
     
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    It's a truly myopic viewpoint that isolates financial reward as the only incentive for ingenuity.
     
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