Game Thread GAME# 61: BLAZERS @ HAWKS - FEBRUARY 29, 2020 - SATURDAY, 4:30, NBCSNW

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Darkwebs, Feb 27, 2020.

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What do you feel are the chances the Blazers make the Playoffs?

Poll closed Mar 1, 2020.

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  1. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Drink the bottle
     
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    Darkwebs Awakened to emptiness Staff Member Moderator

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    Especially since he was severely undersized at the center position.

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    Darkwebs, Feb 29, 2020
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    OneSport3 The Knowledge Hoarder

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    No, it’s not too early. The margin of error was razor thin and this was a must-win game. The Hawks are the 3rd worst team in the league and they dominated this game.
     
    OneSport3, Feb 29, 2020
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    Dude our season was over before the All-Star break
     
    DDolla, Feb 29, 2020
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    No.
    No Nurkic. No Collins. No Lillard. No effort.
     
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    7:02 Pacific Standard Time.
     
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    I just did some pre/post all star team defensive rating comparisons.

    2018-2019: Down 2 spots
    2017-2018: Up 7 spots (#3 in the NBA in 2nd half)
    2016-2017: Up 13 spots
    2015-2016: Down 4 spots

    Last four seasons, on average, Portland improved nearly 5 (edit: 3.5) spots on defense after the all star break.

    @BonesJones I don't think this is a black/white metric to measure defensive improvement in comparison to the rest of the league, but it was the easiest thing for me to pull. Can you think of any metric than can easily be pulled to measure if Portland doesn't "improve" on defense as much as other teams throughout the season?
     
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    Tince, Feb 29, 2020
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    looks like Memphis might finally get a win tonight...up 11 with 6 minutes left
     
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    Apparently not?
     
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    why did you want Portland to win the last games? In the beginning of the season you were on the tank board when they were still 60 games or so to play, now when it's only 20 games to play and Dame hurt you want them to win? That makes zero sense. I've been on the tanking board since the Hood injury and now i hope more than ever that we lose all games for the rest of the season
     
    Labinot41, Feb 29, 2020
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    Don’t drink and watch this game. Don’t you know alcohol is a depressant?
     
    kjironman1, Feb 29, 2020
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    Nice!
     
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    That would make sense in theory, wonder if the data backs that up. Wish there was an easy way to run that query.
     
    Tince, Feb 29, 2020
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    Well 2016-17 was all Nurk, not coaching.
     
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    Look I understand what you are saying but it doesn’t work one way without it working the other. If 16-17 was all Nurk then obviously 19-20 is all Nurk right?
    Players make a difference in all cases. Not just the ones you want them to.
     
    kjironman1, Feb 29, 2020
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    It's waaaaay late.
     
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    If you're implying talent matters, I would agree.

    Even if you omit 2016-2017, the data I pulled would not suggest Portland gets worse on defense throughout the season in comparison to the rest of the league.
     
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    might want to check your math. Looks like 3.5 spots, on average

    but of course that's not really accurate either, or at least not good context. Portland was up 2 seasons and down 2 seasons. With one outlier season which IIRC was the Nurkic fever season. I question that "up 13 spots" for the 2016-17 season too. Portland finished 24th in the NBA that season in defensive rating so if their pre-allstar mark was such that they could jump 13 spots and still end up 24th, I'd think it's not much of a gauge
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Let the chair throwing commence. I’m here at Native Foods in Bridgeport ready to get it started off :biglaugh:
     
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    You're correct, my math was wrong. Improving 3.5 spots is the correct number.

    What metric would you suggest is a good measure of determining if Portland's defense improves more/less than other NBA teams throughout the season? I don't think what I pulled is the best, but I don't have anything better.

    Even if I omit the 2016-2017 (which would not be right in my opinion), you're looking at a near 0 change on average over the other 3 seasons. That would tell me that Portland improves at a normal rate or if they're not improving on defense, the other NBA teams don't improve either.
     
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