Right, and Michael Jordan couldn't win without Scottie Pippen. And LeBron James couldn't win without Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh, and then Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love. Kevin Garnett couldn't win without Paul Pierce and Ray Allen. Clearly these weren't winning players, not the kind you'd want on a successful team.
Seems fair, I kind of think the way to beat all the small ball is to punish them on the boards so lets go! Guess Im on board.
no, they aren't everything but neither is your opinion you're basically regurgitating the 'hollow stats' argument. That's what you're saying...Whiteside has hollow stats. But there are stats that try to gauge player's contributions to wins, and those stats don't agree with you many times this season I've asked people to demonstrate what make's Whiteside's numbers hollow. Nobody has ever shown anything except for babbling about wins. But that remedial argument means that Dame & Cj's stats are just as hollow as Whiteside's; they all have the same number of wins. Dame's scoring and assists are as hollow as Whiteside's scoring and rebonding it's probably a radical idea, but just maybe a better roster has more to do with wins that a worse roster. And scapegoating one player for losses is horseshit
yeah, that's a very legitimate question Golden State has won championships with about one budget C on the roster. Toronto won last season with a C rotation of Gasol and Ibaka splitting duties between C & PF; and this season, they have the 3rd best record in the league with Gasol & Ibaka combining to miss 41 games the Clippers are rolling and they've only had Zubac at C and appear to be just fine adding Noah for a minimum. Denver only has Jokic and Plumlee but they can play together because of Plumlee's mobility and passing. Certainly, Having two traditional C's is great insurance against injury, and right now there are plenty of valid concerns about Nurk's durability. But spending maybe 30M of the cap on a C rotation of Nurkic, Whiteside, and Collins when two of the three could never really play at the same time seems a questionable use of limited resource in an evolving league. All you have to do is think about what Aron Baynes did Thursday night speaking of which, Baynes will be UFA this summer
Bill Walton said (paraphrasing) that in most cases, for a blocked shot to be valuable the ball needs to stay in bounds. Otherwise, obviously, the other team just gets the ball back. Whiteside didn't get the memo.
Blocking it "to" a teammate certainly is more valuable, but I can't agree that it's not valuable if it goes out of bounds. It snuffs a short shot attempt and doesn't reset the shot clock, so the opposing team needs to manufacture a new shot with probably significantly less time.
I'm gonna go with it's roughly a push. Each has his strengths and a very reasonable argument can be made as to each one being better than the other. Right now, I'm go with your wife and say that Whiteside is better and he is learning how to fit in with the team at a pretty fast rate.
all great points. I digress. for the record i don't think im biased. For most of the season i have wanted him back for next season i guess its just getting more and more frustrating to watch us continue to lose with a center putting numbers up like that next to Dame aNd Cj.
you are discounting bbiq and player positioning. No need to get all snarky about it. nurk doesn't get hw stats because he positions himself better to allow team ball and maximize our weapons. My eye test says hw does not. And thus we lose even though he rakes in the stats. Pretty sure you could find alot of complaining about his positioning in game threads.
You guys say jordan doesn't win without pippen. Lol. Well Dame is whitesides pippen. If that is the argument, we already have a big three. What gives?
Oh. Hey. Ill chalk it up to coaching. I mean player positioning is ultimately a coaches responsibility. Get it the eight positions or get off the court. Right?
