OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

My wife was out this morning. Not sure, just taking her for word. She did text me a few minutes ago she found a store that had good meat, it was quite expensive but she bought it anyways. I hope people can find food and all that.

 

Nobody, including the media, is recommending panic. So arguing that we shouldn't be panicking or that panic is "disproportionate" is obvious--those who are doing things in a panic are acting irrationally. If we're talking about the government responses and actual advice being given, I don't think any of that is irrational or disproportionate. I'm not sure if people understand this is still the early days--the "easy part." If you've ever played around with pandemic simulators, the worst ones are those that are highly infectious, don't kill a lot of people early on, don't even show up in terms of obvious symptoms for every person they infect and yet are lethal to a significant portion of the population. That's a good description of COVID-19. What that implies is that, absent interventions, we'd see a first wave of lots of infections (more than we're aware of) but not a lot of deaths, followed by a second wave of the vast majority of the population getting it and millions upon millions of deaths in every major country. And maybe a third wave of even more deaths.

So while the "numbers" don't seem so scary right now, you kind of have to kill the fly with a missile while it still is just a fly. Because if you don't, it'll become something much, much bigger than you can no longer contain or effectively combat.

 

I haven’t been following your conversation so these comments are only directed at your statement about the number of C-19 patients admitted to US hospitals:

1. The number of admissions doesn’t address the number of people gumming up the ERs because they have symptoms but aren’t sick enough to be admitted.

2. The response to the disease is all about trying to avoid exponential growth in cases so that 518 number doesn’t become 50K in a couple of weeks.

 

Ive been saying we should take it seriously but also, we have to be careful of not costing peoples lives going the other direction.

 

Ive built panic simulators, but you do realize those are simulators. Ive flown airplanes in simulators no ones letting me fly them home lol.

 

So far, the biggest way this has effected me is that I forgot to pack up my snack drawer at work and now I have nothing actually good to eat. My girlfriends healthy snacks just aren't cutting it.

 

Exactly...which means the vast majority of people are not that sick so far. Again, it is about context but that sees to be being missed. Of course we want to stop the growth and spread, but the reaction, the numbers, and the comparison to previous outbreaks like H1N1 are entirely different. Can people imagine how much more it would be all Trump's fault if he'd waited until 100o deaths instead of 40 to declare a national emergency like Obama did? Not that either was entirely right or wrong, but the reaction and histeria to the seperate cases is completely different.

 

don't celebrate until it arrives. I ordered some stuff to and my conf said it would deliver on "X" day., Then another notice came saying it would be over a week beyond the original date.

Also...How many case did YOU order???? Compounding on the panic are we?

 

You don't win until it's delivered.

 

Dr Drew on the Herd today. Interesting
https://drdrew.com/2020/coronavirus-vaccine-trials-dr-drew-shares-updates-on-fox-sports-radio/

 

Delivered and opened in order to confirm that it’s TP and not rolls of cash register tape. Well...I guess if it comes down to it, that could work.

 

Whispers are that we will shut the country down for a few days next week

 

Are you whispering to yourself?

 

I honestly think there's a possibility that things may get so bad that hospitals will be forced to turn away some people and inform them to just go home and hope for the best.

Hope I'm wrong.

 

I'm not suggesting I should be put in charge of the response due to using those simulators. It just gives some perspective about how these things work. It doesn't make someone an expert.