OT Unemployment......

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  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    There's no such thing as early voting in the senate. You vote when the vote is called (and Republicans control that).

    Maybe you don't know, but it's rare for Senators to sit around and listen to each other's speeches on the floor if there's not a vote upcoming.

    Legislation isn't crafted on the floor of the senate.

    barfo
     
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  2. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    This reminds me a lot of the guy in the video that Sly just displayed. It kind of makes me wonder if you're from Idaho.
     
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    Your point about transparency is fair on a regular day. But when you consider the fact that no bill in the history of bills has ever been transparent, it’s kind of ridiculous to demand it now of all times, in the midst of a crisis when people’s rent and mortgage payments are due in a couple days.
     
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    Oregon, actually.
     
  5. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I visited the Senate one time. Senator Grassley was speaking. Except for the gallery there was no one else there just Senator Grassley talking to himself.
     
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    Where I work was forced to close in the mandate today, so I guess I'll be applying for temporary unemployment tomorrow based on reduction of hours?
     
  7. TorturedBlazerFan

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    Good luck my friend. A couple of my in-law's work was "temporarily closed" 2 weeks ago, got a call today that they were just closing down / laying off everyone. Hope the outcome for you is better.
     
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  9. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Being retired, my wife and I will likely be okay through this thing (despite our Schwab accounts taking a beating). We might even be saving a fair bit by staying home. So the particulars of the relief bill don’t have a huge amount to do with me personally. But I went to take a shower this morning and discovered I needed a new water heater. So if the gub’mint wants to send me a check, that’s fine by me.......
     
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  10. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Yeah, I've probably lost about $100,000 but I'm out now or nearly any day now. Got all my investments in bonds right now. All of them.
     
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    I think that when the price of the bill is so huge - it really should be done properly - so I guess we disagree on this. If a bill of $10m is non transparent - it is a shame. If it is a bill of $2T - it is a disaster - and the long term ramifications can be a bigger disaster than the one it is trying to solve.

    So, imho - this bill needs to be done carefully. The time for expediency was 2 months ago when we had a chance to slow this thing before it became a monster. Now, that it is a monster - we should make sure it is not the kind of monster that eats us alive. Simple as that.

    and I want you to remember - that this is not just about transparency. There is no point in this bill if it does not stipulate who it is going to help. We have achieved nothing if a huge portion of this bill goes to the pockets or rich investors or operatives with the hope that it will 'trickle down'. The bill needs to ensure that no employer that gets bailed out is using it for anything other than the workers it is supposed to help.
     
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    And if they don't use that money to pay/employ people? If those companies use the money for stock buy-backs? No problem, because at least something was done, even if it was worse than useless?

    "Slush fund" isn't a dirty word (or term, more accurately), it's a pretty accurate word since there's no oversight or transparency on the money. It could be used for virtually anything they want, even if that ended up being giving the money to Trump resorts.
     
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    I’m not denying the possibility of misappropriation. I never would when politicians on either side are involved. With that being said, doing nothing is not the better option right now. People are going to get hit hard if they don’t get some money real quick, not at the speed of gridlock.
     
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    .. Which the current bill does not really guarantee. That's why it is a bad bill.
     
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    Never a more important time to clarify and specify than during a crisis. Ambiguity and vagueness leads to chaos in whichever format it lies in.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    The bill should read like this.

    For the next 90 days no payments shall be made to anyone except for food and water and gasoline.

    No mortgages, no rent checks. No power bills no insurance no nothing.

    If you wanna freeze the global economy, freeze it.
     
  18. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Yup, my spectrum bill went up $10 extra a month so its now $80.

    Seriously, fuck all these companies, no lifevests.
     
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    Well, that $1200 will sure last a long time. I think that Trump and Mnuchin should have only $1200 to live on as long as the rest of us do.
     
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